[CQ-Contest] Re: CQ-Contest Digest, Vol 11, Issue 73
Herb Schoenbohm
herbs at vitelcom.net
Wed Nov 26 13:25:28 EST 2003
Are you suggesting is that I (KV4FZ) operate as NP2/KV4FZ in future
contests to avoid confusion? I am in the Virgin Islands and KV4 at
least used to be a recognized prefix for this place. Maybe we should
have more demanding of the FCC to retain our identity. Believe me if
Johnny Johnson, W3BE (formerly K3BNS) of the FCC's amateur Division at
the time, had arbitrarily decided to make Puerto Rico, for example, KV2
there would have been a serious revolt. The Radio Club in Puerto Rico
has some political clout so this just would have never happened.
(Remember how they successfully lobbied the ARRL to make Desecheo a
separate DXCC entity? They did so by threatening to join the IARU as a
Puerto Rico member.)
I think many agree that the now infamous FCC call sign switching debacle
was punitive, stupid, and unnecessary. It did not result from a request
for new rules by amateur from the bottom up but rather a single career
bureaucratic employee at 1919 M Street with a K3 X3 call who wanted to
send a message to all the 1X2 special interest call self- assignments,
some of which were ARRL bigwigs. Rather than exposing the special
interest arrangements and take action against those self assigned calls,
he decided to deal with the problem by painting with a broad brush and
create rules that hurt all of us. This was done without a hearing,
without a vote, and without due process. He ended up getting his 1X2 as
the rest of hamdom enjoyed the new alphabet soup.
I promised Mr. DX Dick Spencley, KV4AA before he died, that I would
never let this issue just fade away.
There is a real story here of corruption, ineptness, and bureaucratic
egotism which QST will never publish. Yet through the wonders of this
post and the internet you are finding out.
73
Herb Schoenbohm, KV4FZ
>>> I if use just NP3D this will confuse the people who thinks that
>>>
>>>>>>I am
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>working
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>from Puerto Rico. I posted a message in several Bullettines tht
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>NP3D is
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>in
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>Zone 5 USA, not in Zone 8, PR.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>Please use NP3D by itself. The latest country file will score
>>>>>this as
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>United
>>>
>>>
>>>>>States, Zone 5. Don't sign NP3D/2, that will confuse the
>>>>>software and
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>it will
>>>
>>>
>>>>>think you are in US Virgin Islands (NP2).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>But, what about those who are not using CT? What about all
>>>>the casual participants who are not using any contest logging
>>>>software? If Andy uses simply NP3D, he's going to be called by a
>>>>slew of stateside stations who don't realize he's not in PR,
>>>>especially in light of the fact that he's planning an 80m SB
>>>>operation. This is likely to prove highly frustrating for both
>>>>Andy and the callers.
>>>>
>>>>73,
>>>>
>>>>Bill/NG3K
>>>>
>>>>---------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> The world's top contesters battle it out in Finland!
>>>>THE OFFICIAL FILM of WRTC 2002 now on professional DVD and VHS!
>>>> http://home1.pacific.net.sg/~jamesb/
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>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>THE OFFICIAL FILM of WRTC 2002 now on professional DVD and VHS!
>>> http://home1.pacific.net.sg/~jamesb/
>>>---------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>THE OFFICIAL FILM of WRTC 2002 now on professional DVD and VHS!
>> http://home1.pacific.net.sg/~jamesb/
>>---------------------------------------------------------------
>>
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>>
>>
>
>--
>Barry Kutner, W2UP Internet: w2up at mindspring.com
>Newtown, PA Frankford Radio Club
>
>
>
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>Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 23:27:06 -0400
>From: "Felipe J. Hernandez" <felipe at isla.net>
>To: "Andy Drofa" <np3d at mail.ru>, "Chuck Dietz" <w5pr at swbell.net>
>Cc: cq-contest at contesting.com
>Cc: Bill <Bill at ng3k.com>
>Subject: Re: Re[2]: [CQ-Contest] What callsign to use in CQ WW CW2003?
>Message-ID: <004e01c3b3cd$2b4ab610$9a0b32c8 at isla.net>
>References: <E1AOoDA-000Cb2-00.np3d-mail-ru at f21.mail.ru>
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>Andy,
>
>This is all unnecessary, I guess it all started when you posted yourself in
>the contest expedition page
>of NG3k, it has just created unnecesary BW and efforts on a number of people
>from regulators all the way to the software updaters...
>Im sure other wise It wouldnt have caused much problems.. this call sign was
>issued for the commonwealth
>of PR and therefore causes confusion to others.
>as per the actual regulations, its not even required to sign /w2 as per the
>rules.. but it just makes operating sense
>as saves time.
>
>Felipe
>good luck to all in the contest
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Andy Drofa" <np3d at mail.ru>
>To: "Chuck Dietz" <w5pr at swbell.net>
>Cc: <cq-contest at contesting.com>; "Bill" <Bill at ng3k.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 9:11 PM
>Subject: Re[2]: [CQ-Contest] What callsign to use in CQ WW CW2003?
>
>
>
>
>>Chuck, this is US callsign. It was issued by FCC and allowed to use from
>>
>>
>USA.
>
>
>>73 Andrei NP3D
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: "Chuck Dietz" <w5pr at swbell.net>
>>To: "Bill" <Bill at ng3k.com>, <cq-contest at contesting.com>
>>Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 15:44:34 -0600
>>Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] What callsign to use in CQ WW CW 2003?
>>
>>
>>
>>>Don't the rules require your call to indicate your proper DXCC country?
>>>
>>>Chuck W5PR
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Bill" <Bill at ng3k.com>
>>>To: <cq-contest at contesting.com>
>>>Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 11:48 AM
>>>Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] What callsign to use in CQ WW CW 2003?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Jim Reisert AD1C wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>--- "Andy Drofa" <np3d at mail.ru> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>My call is NP3D and I live in Bayside, NY. I am going to participate
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>in
>
>
>>>>>>coming CQ WW CW Contest. Can someone suggest me what callsign I
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>should
>
>
>>>use in
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>the contest? I do not want to use W2/NP3D or NP3D/W2 - this is too
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>long
>
>
>>>I
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>hope you understand me. I could use NP3D/2 but this call looks like
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>from
>
>
>>>KP2?
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>I if use just NP3D this will confuse the people who thinks that I am
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>working
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>from Puerto Rico. I posted a message in several Bullettines tht NP3D
>>>>>
>>>>>
>is
>
>
>>>in
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>Zone 5 USA, not in Zone 8, PR.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>Please use NP3D by itself. The latest country file will score this
>>>>>
>>>>>
>as
>
>
>>>United
>>>
>>>
>>>>>States, Zone 5. Don't sign NP3D/2, that will confuse the software
>>>>>
>>>>>
>and
>
>
>>>it will
>>>
>>>
>>>>>think you are in US Virgin Islands (NP2).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>But, what about those who are not using CT? What about all
>>>>the casual participants who are not using any contest logging
>>>>software? If Andy uses simply NP3D, he's going to be called
>>>>by a slew of stateside stations who don't realize he's not in
>>>>PR, especially in light of the fact that he's planning an 80m
>>>>SB operation. This is likely to prove highly frustrating for
>>>>both Andy and the callers.
>>>>
>>>>73,
>>>>
>>>>Bill/NG3K
>>>>
>>>>---------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> The world's top contesters battle it out in Finland!
>>>>THE OFFICIAL FILM of WRTC 2002 now on professional DVD and VHS!
>>>> http://home1.pacific.net.sg/~jamesb/
>>>>---------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>>_______________________________________________
>>>>CQ-Contest mailing list
>>>>CQ-Contest at contesting.com
>>>>http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>---------------------------------------------------------------
>>> The world's top contesters battle it out in Finland!
>>>THE OFFICIAL FILM of WRTC 2002 now on professional DVD and VHS!
>>> http://home1.pacific.net.sg/~jamesb/
>>>---------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>_______________________________________________
>>>CQ-Contest mailing list
>>>CQ-Contest at contesting.com
>>>http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>---------------------------------------------------------------
>> The world's top contesters battle it out in Finland!
>>THE OFFICIAL FILM of WRTC 2002 now on professional DVD and VHS!
>> http://home1.pacific.net.sg/~jamesb/
>>---------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>CQ-Contest mailing list
>>CQ-Contest at contesting.com
>>http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>>
>>
>>
>
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>Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 21:33:27 -0600
>From: "Kelly Taylor" <ve4xt at mb.sympatico.ca>
>To: "Mark Bailey" <kd4d at comcast.net>, <cq-contest at contesting.com>
>Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] SS KP4 et all
>Message-ID: <00ab01c3b3ce$0e1ca8e0$0100a8c0 at joe>
>References: <129.35d4ec41.2cf39521 at aol.com>
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>Good thing the operation of WP3R is private and not a democracy!
>
>The problem with success is someone always tries to shoot you down.
>
>Go get 'em Rich, and let loose the dogs of war!
>
>Funny, what would baseball be like if we hadn't had Ruth, DiMaggio or Aaron
>pushing the envelope, or hockey without Wayne and Mario, basketball without
>Jordan or football without Marino, Heisman or Favre? Having someone at the
>top of his game is good: look at how hard K4XS and K5TR compete, or how
>VE4GV's record of success in A has helped push that class forward.
>
>It's also very telling that K4XS and K5TR aren't blaming Rich but instead
>are focusing their efforts on where it counts: themselves. And that the
>people who are making the most noise admit to not finishing the contest
>themselves, admit, essentially, to living in a glass house...
>
>Anyone, with enough heart, can mount a WP3R-like operation. Heck, if you're
>really creative, you won't even have to build yourself a station, fill the
>generator yourself and sleep under the operating desk. If you're not willing
>to do so, that's your problem and nobody else's.
>
>73, kelly
>ve4xt
>
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Mark Bailey" <kd4d at comcast.net>
>To: <K5NZ at aol.com>; <cq-contest at contesting.com>
>Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 2:10 PM
>Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] SS KP4 et all
>
>
>
>
>>Good Grief! What does a response "not in favor of KE3Q" mean, anyway?
>>If he wins once, he should get out of the way so someone else can win?
>>
>>
>:-)
>
>
>>Really?
>>
>>Rich is an excellent operator who seems to have identified a way to win
>>Sweepstakes. He does this by going to KP4. More power to him.
>>
>>Heck, I've gone to various Caribbean islands to compete in WAE, myself.
>>Arranging to operate at a competitive station is a big part of the game,
>>IMHO.
>>
>>73,
>>
>>Mark, KD4D
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: <K5NZ at aol.com>
>>To: <cq-contest at contesting.com>
>>Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 12:08 PM
>>Subject: [CQ-Contest] SS KP4 et all
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>>From KE3Q Post.....
>>>
>>>First, WA3FET told me that this popular annual subject had come up again
>>>
>>>
>>and
>>
>>
>>>he and I agreed it was best if we stayed out of it. He did note to me
>>>
>>>
>>that
>>
>>
>>>most of the comments were supportive of me/us,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Just for the record... the direct response I have received about the
>>>
>>>
>>subject
>>
>>
>>>is 4 to 1 and it was not in support of KE3Q unfortunately... I will say
>>>
>>>
>it
>
>
>>is
>>
>>
>>>interesting that the ones not in favor of the yearly KP4 run don't also
>>>
>>>
>>post
>>
>>
>>>their comments to the reflector. That's ok.. I love to stir up the
>>>
>>>
>silent
>
>
>>>majority and take the heat to boot!
>>>
>>>I'm just interested in hearing the different views on the subject... The
>>>
>>>
>>only
>>
>>
>>>advantage I can really see is that DX would have the effect of the
>>>
>>>
>casual
>
>
>>>op/dxer calling in to work the dx and not bother with working others in
>>>
>>>
>>SS.
>>
>>
>>>I will make note that some of your supporters on the reflector suggested
>>>
>>>
>>that
>>
>>
>>>you would do almost as well from W9 or anywhere else for that matter. I
>>>think we could arrange a guest op from W5 or W9 to test this theory
>>>
>>>
>>whenever you
>>
>>
>>>would like to prove the point and make all eat crow! Hey maybe a trade
>>>
>>>
>>off..
>>
>>
>>>KE3Q op from K5TR for SS CW and K5TR op from WP3R for SSB ?
>>>
>>>Bottom line, hats off to anyone who can win SS from anywhere! I can't
>>>
>>>
>even
>
>
>>>finish the damn thing! : )
>>>
>>>Good luck in WW all...
>>>
>>>nz
>>>---------------------------------------------------------------
>>> The world's top contesters battle it out in Finland!
>>>THE OFFICIAL FILM of WRTC 2002 now on professional DVD and VHS!
>>> http://home1.pacific.net.sg/~jamesb/
>>>---------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>_______________________________________________
>>>CQ-Contest mailing list
>>>CQ-Contest at contesting.com
>>>http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>>>
>>>
>>---------------------------------------------------------------
>> The world's top contesters battle it out in Finland!
>>THE OFFICIAL FILM of WRTC 2002 now on professional DVD and VHS!
>> http://home1.pacific.net.sg/~jamesb/
>>---------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>CQ-Contest mailing list
>>CQ-Contest at contesting.com
>>http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>>
>>
>
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>
>Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 22:57:28 -0600
>From: W0UN -- John Brosnahan <shr at swtexas.net>
>To: CQ-Contest at contesting.com
>Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Contesting Computer--RFI issue
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>RE: Computer RFI
>
>Here is my old post and a reply from K6NA taken from
>the archives from 1998.
>
>Guess it is still applicable.
>
>73--John W0UN
>
>-----------------------------------------------------
>
>COMPUTER NOISE SOLUTION
>
>W0UN writes:
>Many of the new computers are omitting the RFI filter in the
>power supply that keeps the garbage from the switching mode supply
>from entering the AC mains. I have had excellent results (as have others
>who have taken my suggestion) in virtually eliminating the interference
>by replacing the AC connector on the back of the power supply with an
>integrated AC connector and RFI filter such as the Corcom 6EF1. The
>mounting hole for the connector must be widened a few millimeters
>on each side--something that can be done with a file in a minute or two.
>Just make sure there is enough room behind the connector position
>to clear the somewhat longer RFI filter. In one case that I made the
>modification I needed to bend a capacitor out of the way.
>
>Some power supplies have a place on the circuit board for a filter but have
>eliminated the components to save some money, and have just placed
>jumpers in the positions where the components had been. It would
>be possible to make a new filter and add it to the existing location--or to
>add it between the circuit board and the existing connector----but the
>commercial Corcom filter is probably the best and easiest way to go.
>
>The commercial filter has 1.0 mH coils (bifilar rated at 6 amps in series
>with each side of the line. On the computer side each side of the AC line
>has 2800 pF to circuit ground. On the AC mains side of the filter there
>is a 9000 pF capacitor across the mains (not to ground). Just make sure
>that you use capacitors that are rated to be installed across the AC
>mains!
>
>The filters are available from most US electronics suppliers for around
>$10 or so, but can often be found in the surplus market for $1-$2. I used
>the 3 amp version (3EF1, a little marginal) because I found some for $1.
>
>There is also a 3EF2 and a 6EF2 that will work and may be even easier
>to fit inside the power supply--their terminals come out the top/bottom
>rather than the end.
>
>If adding and AC mains RFI filter doesn't completely cure the problem then
>additional RFI suppression will be needed--but in my cases (3 computers)
>it eliminated the problem.
>
>gl es 73
>
>John W0UN
>
>---------------------------
>
>K6NA adds:
>All the other suggestions offered may be helpful here and there, but until
>you follow John's advice above, you are wasting your time chasing this kind
>of noise around the shack. He offered this advice on here about a year ago.
>I've built three computers since then, and EVERY TIME his fix was the answer!
>
>In San Diego we can buy mini-cases for as cheap as $25.00. But the switching
>PS is a noisy dog, and there is no filtering. Replacement of the a.c. input
>connector with a filtered type is an easy one-hour job, start to finish and
>it will probably get rid of 95% of your problem. For the remainder you
>might want to play with snap-on chokes, but after I ran coax braid from the
>computer chassis to the station ground buss to get everything at the same
>potential, I needed only one or two chokes to finish the job.
>
>I also noted reduction of video noise when I powered the monitor from the
>accessory a.c. socket on the back of the computer p.s., instead of just a
>random socket in the station. When inside the p.s. box I also had added some
>ferrites to the leads going to this output socket, as a precaution. I
>recommend powering your monitor the same way.
>
>It would be a HUGE JOB to successfully shield a monitor completely, for
>example, and may not be necessary at all if you take care of business in the
>computer p.s. first.
>
>Thank you John!
>
>73, Glenn K6NA
>
>
>
>
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>Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 00:18:24 EST
>From: K4BEV at aol.com
>To: K-Zero-HB at earthlink.net, cq-contest at contesting.com
>Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Contesting Computer --- Feedback
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>In a message dated 11/25/03 6:47:07 PM Central Standard Time,
>K-Zero-HB at earthlink.net writes:
>
>
>
>>Turns out to be a win-win-win situation.
>>
>>
>>
>Maybe not.
>I have a 4 port Belkin switch which is an RFI magnet.
>A manual switch may work, but then again....
>Don - K4BEV
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 23:33:47 -0600 (CST)
>From: Zack Widup <w9sz at prairienet.org>
>To: cq-contest at contesting.com
>Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Contest Operation With Confusing Callsigns
>Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10311252330500.19458-100000 at bluestem.prairienet.org>
>In-Reply-To: <E1AOm32-00098p-00.np3d-mail-ru at f21.mail.ru>
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>
>FWIW, Romeo (dare I mention his name?) used to sign AH0M/W2. Left
>absolutely no questions about where he claimed to be located. :-)
>
>73, Zack W9SZ
>
>On Wed, 26 Nov 2003, [koi8-r] "Andy Drofa[koi8-r] " wrote:
>
>
>
>>Dear Dick,
>>I just want to respect the rules of the Contest.
>>Thank you
>>Andrei NP3D
>>
>>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 16:44:37 +1100
>From: David Burger <DavidB at facilities.usyd.edu.au>
>To: "'cq-contest at contesting.com'" <cq-contest at contesting.com>
>Subject: [CQ-Contest] Contest Operation With Confusing Callsigns
>Message-ID: <5D6909BC54CA974E9CF92A61228F397B35D02F at exchange.facilities.usyd.edu.au>
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>I'd suggest some nutty alternatives;
>
>1. Invite a W2 ham to hang around for the weekend, or;
>2. Secure a US license,but with only 3 days to go, you won't have time to
>get a US call, my experience that took around 8 to 10 days.
>3. Get a cheap flight to PR.
>
>David Burger VK2CZ (K3HZ)
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 04:38:00 -0000
>From: "N7MAL" <N7MAL at CITLINK.NET>
>To: <cq-contest at contesting.com>
>Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] What callsign to use in CQ WW CW 2003?
>Message-ID: <000201c3b3e9$af421000$92d043d8 at n7mal>
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>There have been replies to this thread from 'Jail-House' lawyers pointing
>out rules instead of using common sense. They are correct the rules don't
>specifically say you must use a callsign a certain way. Common sense would
>tell anyone to at least try to give a clue, with your callsign, what country
>your operating in. The purpose, spirit, or theme of any contest is not to
>deceive, or make life difficult, for the other participants. Contesting is
>challenging enough, with stations who only give their calls when they feel
>like it(some of us don't use packet), stations who never send QSL or R,
>outrageous pile-ups caused by packet, and a sun that looks like it's going
>to be erratic during the weekend. NP3D/2 in zone 5 would be a good
>indication he was in the U.S., NP3D/W2 would be even better but NP3D in zone
>5 is only going to waste time with repeats, IMI zone 5, and a lot of
>zero-point contacts. As much as we would like to think everyone who contests
>reads this mailing list, not everyone does so they won't be aware of the
>discussion which has occurred here. NP3D without the /W2 is going to be
>wasting a lot of peoples time, including his own.
>Common sense should dictate the answer, not some mind-numbing
>interpretations of general rules.
>
>
>MAL N7MAL
>BULLHEAD CITY, AZ
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