[CQ-Contest] Re: CQ-Contest Digest, Vol 9, Issue 48

[Ron Notarius WN3VAW]

Bob,

Now I'm confused.

You mean it's perfectly OK for you to bash the ARRL & Logbook of the Word in
a public forum, but it's NOT OK for Dick to explain or defend himself or any
part of the program?

Oh, and I wouldn't be so quick to state that "other member" associated with
the development have "refrained" from using non-ARRL public forums.  To
factually make that both assumes that you know everyone involved in the
development and that you are subscribed to every possible non-ARRL forum...
and I am aware of several who HAVE made public posts on other reflectors.

C'mon.

73, ron wn3vaw

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----- Original Message -----
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 20:53:05 -0400
From: R Johnson <k1vu at tmlp.com>
To: dick.green at VALLEY.NET, "'Darryl Wagoner'" <darryl at shecora.com>,
cq-contest at contesting.com
Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] LoTW Usage - Will you use it???

Dick:
Are you speaking for yourself or the ARRL LoTW team using the CQ Contest
List
for a forum for the League ???

After doing a TEOMA.COM  search on your callsign WC1M, I found that " those
advising the project include Dick Green, WC1M"!!!
See  http://www.arrl.org/news/stories/2001/08/02/3/ !!!

I personally consider it poor form for the ARRL, their employees or advisors
to use a Public List in this manner.

Other member associated with the development LoTW have refrained from using
Non-ARRL list to respond to LoTW questions !!!

73
Bob, K1VU

At 11:49 9/29/2003 , Dick Green wrote:
>While I agree with Darryl that the most secure method is for a DX station
to
>send a CD-R with a signed log to a QSL manager for upload to LoTW, this may
>not be feasible or desirable in all cases. Therefore, it was contemplated
>that QSL managers might need certs for some of the stations they manage.
>Many DX stations either don't have access to the Internet to obtain a cert,
>don't have throughput adequate for large logs, or don't want to hassle with
>Qsling in any form.
>
>In my opinion, the next best choice is for the QSL manager to apply for a
>cert for the DX station. This would be appropriate when the DX station has
>no access to the Internet, cannot or does not want to upload logs to LoTW,
>or supplies paper logs to a QSL manager who types them into a logging
>program. In this case, the QSL manager would apply for the cert. The DX
>station still has to supply the required license and ID information, so
>security is maintained. I don't know whether ARRL will mail the password to
>the DX station or to the QSL manager in such cases. I believe there will be
>documentation on the web about this shortly.
>
>If the DX station has Internet access and wants to be able to upload logs
>too, then it is possible to share the cert with a QSL manager. He would use
>the "Certificate... Save" feature to export the certificate and e-mail the
>resulting .P12 file to the QSL manager. The export is relatively safe, in
>that a password can be specified to protect the private key in the export
>file, making it useless to anyone who happens to intercept the file. I
agree
>with Darryl that this is the least secure way to do it, but it may be
>appropriate for some stations.
>
>In both cases where the QSL manager has a cert for the DX station, the DX
>station is effectively trusting that the QSL manager will not issue QSLs to
>people who didn't earn them. However, this level of trust has always been
>necessary for paper QSL cards, too.
>
>Note that the certificate export command allows all-important backup of the
>cert and private key to another medium. Do not use the .TQ6 file to backup
>the certificate because it contains only the the public key that is used to
>verify your signature, not the private key used to sign QSOs. Use
TQSLcert's
>"Certificate... Save" command to create a .P12 file for export and save it
>to a floppy, CD-R, tape, another hard drive, another computer, etc. The
>private key is not stored on ARRL computers (only your computer) and cannot
>be recreated if you lose it. Similarly, any password you choose to protect
>the private key is known only to you and is not stored on the ARRL
>computers. Don't forget it!
>
>73, Dick WC1M
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Darryl Wagoner [mailto:darryl at shecora.com]
> > Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 11:45 AM
> > To: cq-contest at contesting.com
> > Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] LoTW Usage - Will you use it???
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> >
> > > Another choice would be to e-mail your zipped ADIF file and
> > > cert to a trusted person who has broadband or can stand the
> > > dial-up time. Basically, this person will be acting as your
> > > LoTW QSL Manager.
> >
> > Ah, that won't work unless you also send them the private
> > key. Which I think is a very bad idea.  I think it would be
> > better to send a CD with the signed log to a friend or
> > someone else willing to upload the data.
> >
> > Also maybe ARRL would consider setting up a signing server
> > where the private key is kept encrypted and the owner could
> > upload unsigned QSO and the server would sign them using the
> > the private once the owner has provide their private key password.
> >
> > good luck & 73
> > -darryl WA1GON
> >
> >
>
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