[CQ-Contest] LoTW Usage - Will you use it???

ted demopoulos kr1g at hotmail.com
Tue Sep 30 21:22:55 EDT 2003


Without checking any responses, I'll respond :)

Yes, it makes sense. Maybe it'll happen someday, I hope so. But a little 
progress at a time (and LoTW is a BIG step).

Problem is contest logs are not currently signed - they could be "fake." If 
contest logs were automatically put in, I'll bet I could manufacture a 100% 
fake DXCC in a season or two, without needed to resort to printing fake 
cards!

So it can't happen securely today - although perhaps in the future. There 
are a few security issues to work out first, and I'm betting the ARRL has 
there hands full right now

73
Ted KT1V


>From: Ed Parish K1EP <k1ep at arrl.net>
>Reply-To: k1ep at arrl.net
>To: "Robert McGwier" <rwmcgwier at comcast.net>,"Cq-Contest" 
><cq-contest at contesting.com>
>Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] LoTW Usage - Will you use it???
>Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 06:16:45 -0400
>
>Doesn't it make sense that the ARRL should enter contest logs into LoTW?  
>After all, they can verify QSOs by cross checking the logs of many of the 
>participants.  If they consider the post-UBN logs as good enough for 
>publication and awards, then wouldn't those logs be better than the raw 
>logs kept by the individuals to be submitted to LoTW?  Then, you would just 
>have to upload non-contest logs or maybe non-ARRL contest logs.  Of course, 
>maybe there would have to be cooperation between other contest sponsors 
>(e.g. CQ) that electronically cross check their logs, so that they could 
>massively update LoTW.
>
>At 9/28/03 08:48 PM, Robert McGwier wrote:
> >You can put the signed log/ certified log on the CD-ROM.
> >All they need then is your public key.  If I got this
> >wrong, somebody shout at me but I always uploaded SIGNED
> >logs.
> >
> >Bob
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com
> >[mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com]On Behalf Of Darryl Wagoner
> >Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 4:45 PM
> >To: cq-contest at contesting.com
> >Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] LoTW Usage - Will you use it???
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >
> >> Another choice would be to e-mail your zipped ADIF file and
> >> cert to a trusted person who has broadband or can stand the
> >> dial-up time. Basically, this person will be acting as your
> >> LoTW QSL Manager.
> >
> >Ah, that won't work unless you also send them the private key.
> >Which I think is a very bad idea.  I think it would be better
> >to send a CD with the signed log to a friend or someone else
> >willing to upload the data.
> >
> >Also maybe ARRL would consider setting up a signing server
> >where the private key is kept encrypted and the owner could
> >upload unsigned QSO and the server would sign them using the
> >the private once the owner has provide their private key password.
> >
> >good luck & 73
> >-darryl WA1GON
>
>
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