[CQ-Contest] SO3R in high rate not really an option but SO2R yes

Fri Apr 9 22:31:43 EDT 2004

Tonno & all

A lot of people think SO2R is 2 radios RX simultaneously but

Operating from Aruba means you are always in a pile-up situation.
SO3R is not really an option there. It can be done in some special ocasions,
like I mention in my last e-mail. But I don't think it is a real option
because the distractions it causes can be harmfull...because it hurts your
concentration and focus.
I allways like to try new things every year, and this last November I tried
to improve my concentration during every QSO. Sounds an easy thing to do,
but to keep it for 48, believe me it is not such an easy thing to do.

I have been asked a lot about my last P40E operation and the one thing I can
come up with is CONCENTRATION for every moment in the QSO

And with SO2R it is essential you concentrate. If you do not, there goes the
rate down the drain.

This last November during CQWW CW as P40E as a SOAB I had 8184 QSOs
including dupes

13 out of the 48 hours were above 200 QSOs
20 out of the 48 hours were between 150 and 200 QSOs
13 out of the 48 hours were between 100 and 150 QSOs
only 2 hours below 100 QSOs (72 and 80)

During the first day this was my rate during the following hours and also
the use done with my SO2R set-up

Time	Rate	2nd radio S&P	2nd radio moving from radio1
11	216	5 Mults		1 mult
12	224	3 mults		2 mults
13	238	0 mults		0 mults
14	223	4 mults		1 mult
15	185	1 mult		1 mult
16	230	6 mults		0 mults
17	225	5 mults		1 mult
18	237	2 mults		2 mults
19	219	2 mults		0 mults
20	172	5 mults		3 mults
21	167	5 mults		0 mults

This first day was you can see fantastic! My best ever contesting
experience!

Every QSO demands a lot of concentration. And in every QSO there are five
different moments

Moment 1
"TEST P40E"
I send my call, durung this, I listen only on radio 2, looking for mults

Moment 2
Pile-up Calling
There are 2 possibilities here:

1
If the pile-up is heavy (at least 2 station calling)I focus all my attention
to radio1 to pick one full call, the first time. I don't want to mess up
with other radio but radio 1. If I don't there is a chance, I don't pick a
full call, and there goes my high rate down the drain...

2
If the pile-up is very small (just one station calling) then I can split my
attention between radio1 and radio2.

In Aruba I'm in mode 1 most of the times. If operating from the USA or EU or
JA, mode 2 is the predominant one.

Moment 3
"CALL ENNN"
I send the call I picked in the pile-up my exchange.
During this I listen only on radio 2, looking for mults.

Moment 4
CALL HIS REPORT
The call sign I picked in the pile-up sends me his exchange.
During this I listen with left ear to the exchange and I listen with right
ear on radio 2, looking for mults.
ALthoug a listen both to radio1 and radio2 in reality I can say I'am 90%
focused in Radio 2 and 10% in Radio 1.

Moment 5
"TU" or "TU P40E"
I send TU and maybe maycall.
During this, I listen only radio2, looking for mults.

-----Original Message-----
From: cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com
[mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com]On Behalf Of Tonno Vahk
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 06:50
To: cq-contest at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] SO3R???

Very nice description, Jose!

Exactly Alternate CQs is one good example of SO3R.

Effectively I have been doing SO3R when CQing on 40m and listening my
frequency and up. At the same time S&P on 80 or 20 for example.

It is no problem to listen to 3 RX audios simultaneously. You won't be
messing them up in your brain if you get used to it. The problem is with QRM
and noise. If the bands are very noise you might have a problem picking up
weak stations. With nice and quiet bands you might as well listen to 4 or 5
channels at the same time and you hear when somebody comes back to you.

73
tonno
es5tv
----- Original Message -----
From: "CT1BOH - José Carlos Cardoso Nunes" <ct1boh at sapo.pt>
To: <cq-contest at contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 11:42 PM
Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] SO3R???

> There are several ways to explore SO3R:
>
> Here is one than can be done from Aruba @P40E:
>
> Radio 1: I'am running on 20 (during night time) beaming USA and EU
> Radio 2: S&P on 15 on a very quiet band beaming west/south looking Pacific
> and Asia long path multipliers
> Radio 3: on and almost dead 10 meter band with no USA or EU propagation,
> transmit an automatic fast CQ or just my Call P40E, right after each TX on
> radio 1, looking for those elusive Pacific or Asia long path or Indian
ocean
> Short path multipliers to call you
>
> Now the trick is when to listen on that radio 3 because you are sharing RX
> with radio 1, which is RUN radio, and you dont want to mess the incoming
> calls?
>
> 1. Dont't RX all the time but look at the S meter, if the radio has a
> spectrum display it's even easier
> 2. RX radio1+radio3 ONLY right after you send other station RST+Zone with
> run radio 1
>
> 73 José
> CT1BOH
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com]On Behalf Of Hanlon, Steve
> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 17:57
> To: cq-contest at contesting.com
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] SO3R???
>
>
>
> > Actually it seems to me that incorporating 3rd radio and
> > running SO3R would seem quite a reasonable thing to do.
>
> and then what, you pull a rabbit out of your hat?  i would like to see
> someone use 3 radios in a meaningful way.  i don't see how you can
actively
> use them.  if the 1st radio is calling CQ and you are tuning the second,
are
> you listening for replies on the 1st rig?  maybe that's why when i tried
> answering several calls i just got the same pre-recorded message again and
> again.  so you set the 3rd rig to scan the band and listen to activity?
> what do the headphones look like for that setup.
>
> but the real question is can you work SO3R, log the qso (from which radio
i
> have no idea), and turn the beam all while chewing gum?
>
> -steve hanlon
> KB3KAQ
>
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