[CQ-Contest] Line Scores

[John Geiger]

But it is a contest.  It has the same goals as a
contest, and has contest-type rules.  Also, couldn't
these technically saavy people find the FD scores on
line as well?

I wonder if "Up Front in QST" could be replaced with
contest line scores in the appropriate months.  Is
there any data to indicate how many subscribers read
and want this feature (Up Front)?

John NE0P

--- Ward Silver <hwardsil at centurytel.net> wrote:

> Because it's "not a contest, it's an operating
> event" and because it forms a
> valuable bridge between the non-contest and contest
> communities.
> 
> 73, Ward N0AX
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John Geiger" <johngeig at yahoo.com>
> To: "Ward Silver" <hwardsil at centurytel.net>;
> "CQ-Contest Reflector"
> <cq-contest at contesting.com>
> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 9:41 AM
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Line Scores
> 
> 
> > SO why are Field Day line scores still published?
> > They probably make up more pages than all the
> other
> > contests combined.
> >
> > 73s JOhn NE0P
> >
> >
> > --- Ward Silver <hwardsil at centurytel.net> wrote:
> >
> > > > I concur totally-- I used to wait eagerly to
> see
> > > "k5ucv" even with very
> > > few Qs.  It was exciting-- recognition that I
> > > belonged.  I hate it that they
> > > do not publish
> > > > the scores any more.
> > >
> > > Not picking on Rusty in particular...
> > >
> > > Lets be clear - the ARRL *also* hates that they
> > > can't publish line scores in
> > > QST any more.  Those pages were lost because
> there
> > > aren't enough members and
> > > advertising dollars to support them, the reasons
> for
> > > which are well beyond
> > > the scope of this discussion. Despite the modern
> > > tendency to find a
> > > conspiracy behind every grassy knoll, this was
> not
> > > an anti-contester act.
> > > The ARRL has been and remains the world's
> largest
> > > sponsor of contests by a
> > > large factor.  They get an imperial ton of
> > > complaints about it, too...
> > >
> > > While many of us greybeards - some with entirely
> > > more salt than pepper - may
> > > cherish the printed page, for technically savvy
> > > individuals under the age of
> > > 40 (i.e. - the new blood we all claim to seek)
> the
> > > printed page is a lot
> > > less important.  They have a different set of
> > > expectations and waiting for
> > > months and months to see lines of 6-point type
> is a
> > > lot lower on their totem
> > > pole.  We grew up with it and it is our
> standard.
> > > They did not and it is
> > > not.
> > >
> > > At the time of the original announcement, a
> group of
> > > folks got together and
> > > took a look at contest-related information.  We
> > > wrote a paper about where we
> > > thought the information should go.
> > >
> >
>
(http://www.designet.com/k1ir/Downloads/ContestProposal_071702.pdf)
> > >  This
> > > tried to take into account the reality of
> publishing
> > > media today.  Some
> > > things are good in print.  Stuff that is really
> data
> > > - like line scores -
> > > costs too much for physical distribution in the
> > > publishing environment of
> > > today.  If you think you know so ding-dong much
> > > about it, go start your own
> > > magazine and show us :-)
> > >
> > > Bud's comment about "feeder activities" and
> other's
> > > observations about
> > > referencing their performance to local/regional
> > > standards point the way.
> > > The information is out there and public.  We are
> all
> > > known presences in our
> > > communities.  All we have to do is apply
> ourselves
> > > by combining the data
> > > with the crucial personal touch that made the
> > > difference to us when we were
> > > starting out.  Soon, you'll see those new calls
> in
> > > the pileups.  I've seen
> > > it happen right here in our local club.
> > >
> > > It's not up to "somebody else" - it's up to YOU
> AND
> > > ME.
> > >
> > > 73, Ward N0AX
> > >
> > >
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