[CQ-Contest] RE: Line Scores

Fri Dec 3 09:10:59 EST 2004

I'm sorry to disagree, but there is a difference between "contest" and QSO 
party. As a matter of fact, in the three pages of descriptive in December 
QST, the word "Contest" is not even once mentioned. And on page 90 it is 
written:

"While some may disagree, Field Day really isn't about score. It is about 
things far more important"

And, oh, by the way, VHF CONTESTS really do count in my estimation. But I 
believe you missed my point, which was: ARRL doesn't find space anymore to 
publish international contest results, however it finds plenty of space for 
domestic "operating events".

73 de Mike, YO3CTK
YR7M in contests

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kenneth E. Harker" <kenharker at kenharker.com>
To: "Yo3ctk" <yo3ctk at alltrom.ro>
Cc: <cq-contest at contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 3:59 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] RE: Line Scores

> On Fri, Dec 03, 2004 at 03:33:18PM +0200, Yo3ctk wrote:
>
>> But, lo and behold, in December issue, no less than 12 (twelve) pages
>> dedicated to ARRL Field Day, 4 (four) pages for June VHF QSO Party (which
>> isn't even a contest) and 2 (two) pages for January 2005 contest
>> announcements (four contests of which three are domestic).
>
> The ARRL June VHF QSO Party is definitely a real contest.  For most of 
> North
> America, it is the highest-participation VHF contest of the year.  Or do
> VHF contests not count in your estimation?
>
>
>> Seems like a good value for money, isn't it?
>>
>> 73 de Mike, YO3CTK
>> YR7M in contests
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Rick Stoneking" <w2rds at arrl.net>
>> To: <cq-contest at contesting.com>
>> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 3:12 PM
>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] RE: Line Scores
>>
>>
>> >I can agree with this 100% - well, except for the fact that I have used 
>> >the
>> >online scores database and find it does provide a great opportunity for
>> >doing analysis of contests and planning strategy for the next one. but 
>> >if
>> >I
>> >had to choose I would rather have the scores printed in QST, for exactly
>> >the
>> >reasons cited in N7MAL's post below!
>> >
>> >73,
>> >Rick
>> >W2RDS
>> >
>> >----- Original Message ----- 
>> >From: "N7MAL" <N7MAL at CITLINK.NET>
>> >To: <cq-contest at contesting.com>; "Eric Hilding" <dx35 at hilding.com>
>> >Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 2:53 AM
>> >Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] RE: Line Scores
>> >
>> >
>> >In the early 60's I saw my call in print, for the first time, and from
>> >then
>> >on I was hooked. I have been contesting ever since. For me contesting 
>> >and
>> >seeing my call, along with my peers, in print in a legitimate magazine 
>> >is
>> >what kept me going. Comparing my score with others and trying to improve
>> >my
>> >contesting ability CANNOT be duplicated, or replaced, on the internet.
>> >There
>> >is just no replacement for a shiny, glossy, page in a magazine. Reading
>> >plain text on a computer screen is bland and boring. You said:"In case 
>> >no
>> >one has realized this yet, a web page can become a "printed
>> >page" with a click or two of the mouse :-)"
>> >If it's bland and boring on a computer screen it's just as bland and
>> >boring
>> >on a sheet of plain paper.
>> >The other thing is when scores are published I know at least 140,000 
>> >hams
>> >are receiving the magazine. I don't have a clue who is/is not looking at
>> >the
>> >internet except for one, me. So far I have never looked at line scores 
>> >on
>> >the internet and have no plans in the future to look at internet for
>> >scores.
>> >The bottom-line for me I guess could best be described as an 
>> >'ego-thing'.
>> >Even though I have very few and far between wins it is still neat to see
>> >my
>> >call in print. I guess I'm old fashioned, I'm very proud of my call.
>> >
>> >MAL               N7MAL
>> >BULLHEAD CITY, AZ
>> >http://www.ctaz.com/~suzyq/N7mal.htm
>> >
>> >
>> >----- Original Message ----- 
>> >From: Eric Hilding
>> >To: cq-contest at contesting.com
>> >Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 7:02 AM
>> >Subject: [CQ-Contest] RE: Line Scores
>> >
>> >
>> >Gee, I guess I'm not grasping the big stink over Line Scores & printed
>> >publication vs. the Net.
>> >
>> >With the costs of digital data storage constantly going down and the 
>> >costs
>> >of printing going through the roof, it's no wonder that many newspapers
>> >are
>> >working overtime to divert readers to web-viewers.  IMHO, the "printed
>> >page' is doomed to extinction perhaps sooner than we realize.
>> >
>> >Personally, I find the downloadable .csv files off the ARRL's website to
>> >be
>> >far more efficient for data evaluation and reconfiguration purposes in
>> >Excel or a Database (and there is no need to retype information) than 
>> >from
>> >fine print in a magazine.  Especially so as my glasses just don't seem 
>> >to
>> >work as well year after year.
>> >
>> >In case no one has realized this yet, a web page can become a "printed
>> >page" with a click or two of the mouse :-)
>> >
>> >And of course, BPL will make Line Score(s) viewing "online" so much 
>> >faster
>> >(ooops, bad joke again).
>> >
>> >TMTCW & 73...
>> >
>> >Rick, K6VVA
>> >
>> >
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