[CQ-Contest] Line Scores

[Kenneth E. Harker]

On Fri, Dec 03, 2004 at 04:11:20PM +0300, Alexander Teimurazov wrote:
>  Its interesting why NCJ is not publishing ARRL contest results
>  I know NCJ is ARRL magazine also?

The NCJ was not originally an ARRL publication.  It started out as a small,
self-published newsletter.  As it grew in size and subscriber base, 
eventually a deal was struck with the ARRL to support it's publication.
The ARRL handles the finances, professional layout, printing, and mailing
of the magazine, but _all_ of the magazine's content is still created by 
volunteers.  K9LA is not paid to be the editor of the NCJ.  None of 
the article authors are paid for their work.  The NCJ-sponsored contests 
are run by volunteers and the results are produced by volunteers (not the 
ARRL Contest Branch.)

The NCJ benefits from this relationship: volunteers get to focus on content
rather than the mundane details of finances and production; and the ARRL 
promotes the magazine to the ARRL membership.

The ARRL benefits from the relationship: ARRL membership loyalty is enhanced
amongst contesters; there is an ARRL-associated outlet for authors whose
contest-specific writings don't fit into QST; and the prestige of the ARRL
amongst hams at large, who know that the ARRL is publishing several specialty 
magazines as well as QST, is generally enhanced.




>  If not then really NCJ is in difficult position and they are magazine from
> contester with difficulties to get access to results of the contests and
> publish them
> We need results of the contests anyway and I dont know what to do in that
> situation
>  That will be really very bad if contest organizers will care only to make
> money and forget that contest even such popular like CQ WW and ARRL need
> advertizing
>        73                      Al 4L5A/D4B
> 
> > Maybe it is just me but
> >
> > "> Organize a petition saying we will take some action against QST. and
> > > in particular the advertisers."
> >
> > sure sounds like you are suggesting a threat against both QST and the
> > "advertisers" (i.e. the "Big 5") to me...
> >
> >
> > Rick
> > W2RDS
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "N7MAL" <N7MAL at CITLINK.NET>
> > To: "John Geiger" <johngeig at yahoo.com>; "Rick Stoneking" <w2rds at arrl.net>;
> > "CQ-Contest Reflector" <cq-contest at contesting.com>
> > Cc: "Ward Silver" <hwardsil at centurytel.net>
> > Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 1:20 AM
> > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Line Scores
> >
> >
> > Well once guys are putting words in my mouth. I NEVER said, or implied or
> > suggested, threatening the manufactures.
> > Here is a rough draft of a letter I will send to Yaesu:
> >
> > Dear Sirs:
> > 2 months ago I purchased the finest state of the art contesting and Dx'ing
> > radio, the FT1000MP MKV. It is an excellent product and hopefully as an
> > operator I can live up to your radio. I purchased it from AES and they
> were
> > very courteous and helpful in selecting the right options.
> > I do have one problem and that is a magazine you and your dealers heavily
> > advertise in, QST, refuses to adequately support my, and many others,
> > contesting activities and needs. Until recently QST was the number one
> forum
> > for contesting and contesting activities. It is no longer it's another
> also
> > ran now.
> > I would like you to suggest to QST/ARRL to use your advertising dollars to
> > help support your customers needs, especially in area of contesting,
> > contesting activities, and contest reporting. The end result might lead to
> > more sales of your fine products like the Ft 1000MP.
> > Thank you
> >
> > cc: AES
> >
> > I think if enough letters of this type were sent the big 5: Yaesu, Icom,
> > Kenwood, AES, and HRO the ARRL would have no choice but to respond to the
> > contesting community.
> >
> >
> > MAL               N7MAL
> > BULLHEAD CITY, AZ
> > http://www.ctaz.com/~suzyq/N7mal.htm
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: John Geiger
> >   To: N7MAL ; Rick Stoneking ; CQ-Contest Reflector
> >   Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 12:11 AM
> >   Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Line Scores
> >
> >
> >   The problem is, what are you going to threated the
> >   manufactures with?  Never again buy their product?
> >   They know better than that.  Who else are you going to
> >   buy a contest quality radio from?  it isn't something
> >   that most of us could homebrew.
> >
> >   73s John NE0P
> >
> >   --- N7MAL <N7MAL at CITLINK.NET> wrote:
> >
> >   >
> >   > I can 100% guarantee you if 7000 members of the
> >   > contest community wrote the 5 big advertisers the
> >   > line scores would reappear as if by magic.
> >   >
> >   >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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