[CQ-Contest] Disturbing the peace

Barry w2up at mindspring.com
Tue Feb 24 12:19:37 EST 2004

On the subject of moving stations, I was surprised that a few DX 
stations moved ME.  It's never happened before.  If NJ is rare, PA 
must be even rarer :.)

One request to the movers - one of the stations that moved me was a 
multi.  He said QSY 14050 (for example).  I go there and don't hear 
him.  I start tuning a bit and there is is up at 050.8 (with 3 or 4 
stations in between).  Maybe it's because I like packet, and I'm used 
to clicking on the spot and having the station be there.  But, if you 
move someone, please give them your EXACT frequency.  By the way, did 
I tell you I like packet? (the key to success knowing how much to 
ignore it)

Barry, W2UP
P.S. Hey Andy, if you hate packet, why do you have a node of your 

On 24 Feb 2004 at 14:27, Andy Blank wrote:

> I was surprised by Alex's response to me, and it got me to thinking
> about the QSY issue again.
>     "Dear Andy,
> You only person with whom I qsy
>  I make only one qsy this contest and its you and 80m contact
>  I even decide I will not ask multiplier to qsy with me
>  I dont know about GW stations but I think me and Paul WP3R was
>  allways on
> the band and its not so difficult to find as
>  I think also thats too easy way to comeup on DX freq call him and ask
>  him
> to qsy on all 6 band if he have good setup and you sure you will hear
> him
>  Anyway Im happy only with one qsy we make 6 band contact and there is
> plenty of contesters make 6 bands qsos with out asking to qsy to
> another band
>  I wish you GL in SSB with my friend W2GD I know John propably will
>  join you
> in SSB contest
>       73     Al 4L5A/D4B"
> That was the only time I had asked him to QSY, and I know I couldn't
> have been the first :) But since it was 2 hours into daylight, maybe
> curiousity got the best of him! Congratulations to him on a fabulous
> score!
> The thing is that nowadays, the SOAB Unassisted is a lonely island,
> but I wouldn't live anywhere else. Did I mention I hate packet? A
> station like D4B, who is bonecrushingly loud and at the right
> latitude, will always have a huge pileup, even without packet. Easy to
> find. Most of the DXpeditions are easy to find. But, it is possible to
> miss a few here and there, on certain bands, mostly because of timing.
> You might be running on the same band and never stumble on him. A
> competetive SO must check to get the easy ones wherever possible. I
> really made sure I did that this time.
>    If I find someone on another band, I ask them about the needed
>    band.
> Maybe they are multi and have another station? No harm in asking, but
> I only ask if I am sure I am not disturbing a pileup. It doesn't
> always work, you can't always hear the callers. But at least I try. In
> response to Alex, he will have tons of 6 banders, but let's be real.
> The moment he hit 160, I am sure bedlum broke loose. Did I mention I
> hate packet? I am thrilled I found him on 5 bands anyway :) I did this
> with J6DX. They were multi. I needed 15 at the time I think, and found
> them on 20. He tells me the frequency, I look and nothing. Waste 2
> minutes. I go back and find out the operator is in the kitchen. I wait
> for him, and tell him to enjoy his coke. So while it might be easy to
> work them on a pass, I used up 3 minutes of time. Is it worth it? You
> bet.
> There were MANY stations that moved that I could not hear. On the
> other hand, there were some I never thought would make it that did! I
> was thrilled when RW2F moved me to 160, I didn't have to ask. They
> couldn't have needed NJ, but who knows:) The best was WP3R who is so
> quick, that he moves me before the report is done. It was early in the
> contest and almost a pre-emptive strike! Why move a lowly NJ? It's not
> like I am in Delaware or something... He knows I will ask eventually,
> so he beats me to the punch. It was all done in 10 seconds. Paul
> didn't miss a beat and kept on running. Very impressive.
> I suppose my point is that you always have perspective. All
> competitive ops are trying just as hard as any DXpedition. For me,
> moving is actually fun. There are very few DX single ops that call me,
> I have to find them. Did I mention I hate packet?  At least with my
> station, I don't get called by rare stuff that often.  I would say,
> the difference between winning and not is doing the little things like
> passing better. Of course I never win, but that's another story!
> Thanks to everyone for a fun weekend, and especially the many stations
> that did move!
> 73, Andy N2NT
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Barry Kutner, W2UP              Internet: w2up at mindspring.com
Newtown, PA                     Frankford Radio Club

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