[CQ-Contest] Response to K5ZD's comments

Mon Mar 15 17:56:04 EST 2004

Alfred,

I see the time constraint as an issue that will continue to grow as our
lives become more and more complicated,
its not about winning, is about participating and competing at whatever
level, single  element, half a coax, Gutter antennas etc..
A guy wants to increase his score every year ( if on its way some plaque is
won, great), I dont see how highly commited individuals
or single parents or guys with two jobs can keep trying to improve their
level of competition and improvement if they know that
something along the way will create a complication for some part of their
weekend.

I say give it a try, If nobody likes it well... no harm done, no weird rule
that would ever change the contest structure..
At the End of the day its competition, but at a more accesible  level it
will be easier for these stations to  set goals that they can go after
year after year, who knows maybe after theyve master the 24 youll see them
at the 48 hrs level.

My ..--- cents

Felipe
NP4Z

-----Original Message-----
From: cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com
[mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com]On Behalf Of Alfred J. Frugoli
(KE1FO)
Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 9:17 PM
To: cq-contest at contesting.com
Subject: Re: RE: [CQ-Contest] Response to K5ZD's comments

I see two issues here.

1. Create another category so more folks have a chance at wallpaper

2. a way to run a contest "seriously" without killing your weekend (and
putting other parts of your life in jeopardy) and still have stations to
compare yourself to.

If we add a 24 hour category for those who can't put in 24 hours due to
life's restraits, why not a CC&R category for all of us restricted by that -
or a single element on every band category for those whith no tower?  Where
does it stop if we make this new category?

I'm a big proponent of publishing as much information as possible with the
score results (i.e. hours worked, basic station descreption etc.).  This
would allow competetors to look at results from similarly equiped stations
who worked a similar number of hours and see how they faired in comparison.
This doesn't add another category that could be won, but frankly my shack is
in the basement wtih cement walls, and it's hard to put up plaques on that
stuff!

73 de Al, KE1FO

----- Original Message -----
From: Felipe  J. Hernandez
Sent: 3/14/2004 4:50:32 PM
To: zf2nt at candw.ky;cq-contest at contesting.com
Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] Response to K5ZD's comments

> I think jims comments are right on track, but that philosophy is not
shared
> by everyone..
> On the other hand,  I was already discussing Bruce's idea of integrating
> categories that will accomodate
> these ops with fewer time/stamina and  I think is the one that makes
sense.
>
> Times selection will make it interesting, since my peak times may not be
the
> same one as some other ham in the other side of the world.
>
> I think its a feasible Idea but the things to consider would be
> 1. is it any 24 hours?
> 2.Is it a sat or a sunday contest within the full 48
>
> Can the commitee Identify which are the reasons for the slowing of rates
> apart from already worked stations?
> That will make the desicion of which day will be better easier.
>
>
> Felipe
> NP4Z
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com]On Behalf Of Bruce Sawyer
> Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 2:03 PM
> To: cq-contest at contesting.com
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Response to K5ZD's comments
>
>
> Here's a different alternative to the 24/48 debate about ARRL contests:
>
> Do the same thing the Brits do and offer a category where you only work 24
> hours out of the 48 hour period.  I'm doing that at this very minute in
the
> Commonwealth Contest, having chosen to operate only 12 hours out of the 24
> hour contest period.  It's not due to lack of stamina (sorry, Phillipe)
nor
> lack of interest.  I've got a plane flight tomorrow morning over to Grand
> Cayman, and when I get there at noon I'm going to be very much on stage.
> Thus there's no way I want to stay up all night tonight and then look like
a
> zombie tomorrow.  Interestingly enough, the Restricted (i.e. 12 hour)
> category in the Commonwealth Contest is far more popular than the Open (24
> hour) category.  I really think the same thing would work in the ARRL
> contests.  Then people who want to slug it out for the whole 48 hours can
do
> so, and the rest of us can be quite content to compete for the junior
> trophy, or whatever you want to call it.
>
> Bruce, ZF2NT
>
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