[CQ-Contest] Here we go again

[k8gt at twmi.rr.com]

Hey!  You are disparaging many fine, honorable and talented ops I know, and some that I don't, that do not cheat, and play by the rules.  They have also worked hard to develop their amazing talents.  If what you describe is happening then it is particular individuals, NOT the group or type of operation.  Also be sure you are listening at the same exact time and not switching bands since their switching circuits are faster than you are.  It is all still a single operator.  You try it, I can't do it, but I may yet try.

73, Gerry K8GT

----- Original Message -----
From: ak0a <ak0a at kc.rr.com>
Date: Monday, November 29, 2004 5:27 pm
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Here we go again

> Tower heights and skill has nothing to do with comparison. When I 
> hear a 
> SO2R calling CQ on two different bands at the same time and 
> working stations 
> at the same time, there is something wrong with the SO2R. with a 
> separate 
> category they can call each other until the cows come home
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Russell Hill" <rustyhill at earthlink.net>
> To: "Joe Subich, K4IK" <k4ik at subich.com>; "'ak0a'" 
> <ak0a at kc.rr.com>; 
> <dezrat1242 at ispwest.com>
> Cc: <cq-contest at contesting.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 11:07 AM
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Here we go again
> 
> 
> > Joe, you echo my argument I circulated on Friday about tower 
> height, and 
> > you have probably stated it better than I.  Thank you for 
> supporting the 
> > viewpoint.  If we can get enough serious contesters to consider 
> the idea, 
> > maybe we can get some admittedly arbitrary height limitation 
> which will 
> > encourage the little pistols to improve their low antenna 
> station, knowing 
> > they will not always be blown out by someone with 200' towers 
> and 
> > multi-stacks in the "same category".  If we categorize on the 
> basis of 
> > number of ops, number of transmitters, and power out, why do we 
> not 
> > recognize that the capability to put up antennas of the "giant" 
> variety 
> > are a major determinant of a station's ability to compete?
> >
> > I would like very much to see a discussion started.  I think 
> this is the 
> > only way we can get increased participation on a large scale.
> >
> > 73, Rusty, na5tr
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Joe Subich, K4IK" <k4ik at subich.com>
> > To: "'ak0a'" <ak0a at kc.rr.com>; <dezrat1242 at ispwest.com>
> > Cc: <cq-contest at contesting.com>
> > Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 10:12 AM
> > Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] Here we go again
> >
> >
> >>
> >>> From:  ak0a
> >>>
> >>> I agree with you Bill. the only people who are against this
> >>> are the SO2R ops. Why? I cant figure out. What are they scared of?
> >>
> >> You are 100% dead wrong ... I do not do SO2R but have absolutely
> >> no problem understanding that a better equipped station with a
> >> more proficient operator might choose to have a second rig on one
> >> band looking for mults, checking propagation, etc. while 
> running on
> >> a different band.  It has been that way for at least the nearly 30
> >> years that I have been around the contest game and only for the
> >> last few of those years has the chorus been "discriminate against
> >> the elite stations!"
> >>
> >> If you are arguing for separate categories, then a separate 
> category>> for towers over 22 meters and multiple antennas per 
> band should be
> >> implemented long before a separate category for SO2R.
> >>
> >> In truth, competing against the big antenna stations is far more
> >> frustrating to the bulk of the "vertical and wires or A3 on the 
> roof">> stations than competing against someone with a trap vertical
> >> connected to the second receiver input on his FT-1000D or a 
> "Windom">> in a tree connected to an older [second] transceiver.  
> A station can
> >> gain far more by improving antennas than can ever be gained by 
> adding>> SO2R.  Only when one has optimized the antenna system 
> does SO2R add
> >> significantly to the score.
> >>
> >> 73,
> >>
> >>   ... Joe, K4IK
> >>
> >>
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