[CQ-Contest] Log checking questions

[Bob Naumann - W5OV]

Didn't we go through all of this back in October?  (Déjà vu all over again?)

You say: "You will get no help from the contest sponsors.  Oh they say they
aggressively pursue cheating but talk is cheap, actions speak louder than
words."  

As a log checker for a major DX contest, I know that those who cheat are
being caught and are not winning anything.  That is a FACT.  What example do
you know of where a packet cheater being brought to the attention of the
contest sponsors was ignored?  Who was the cheater, and who are these
ignorant contest sponsors?  Where are your facts?

You assert that "As long as the contest sponsors first priority is revenue,
from their magazines, cheating will continue".  What revenue do contest
sponsors get from packet cheaters, and how do they identify that revenue as
separate from non-cheaters?  Where are your facts?

Don't get me wrong, I am not in favor of anyone cheating.  I am just *more*
not in favor of baseless accusations.

73,

Bob W5OV
Ex N5NJ, KR2J, V26O, et al


-----Original Message-----
From: N7MAL [mailto:N7MAL at CITLINK.NET] 
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 11:25 PM
To: Mark Beckwith; cq-contest at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Log checking questions

Mark right now every contest you enter you are entering against guys using
'crutches', many many guys. Over the years the contest sponsors have had a
great many opportunities to 'bust' the cheaters but they won't/don't. N6TJ
and I and others have brought this up several times over the past few years
and nothing, absolutely nothing, gets done about it. I have cited obvious
cheaters from my own logs, during SS, and nothing has changed. As long as
the contest sponsors first priority is revenue, from their magazines,
cheating will continue. You will get no help from the contest sponsors. Oh
they say they aggressively pursue cheating but talk is cheap, actions speak
louder than words.
Several months ago, when this subject came up, I suggested a one(1) contest
weekend moratorium on the packet so the scores could be analyzed to
determine the impact on packet cheating. You would have thought I had shot
someone's dog. I was attacked viciously both publicly and privately. The
packet cheaters couldn't go one(1) contest without packet and apparently
neither can one packet sysop, K1TTT who publicly attacked me.

Anyone who knows me knows how strongly I feel against using packet during
contests. I wish there were an alternative but after fighting it for so many
years there seems to be no solution other than to make it a 'free-for-all'.
I will take comfort in knowing every contact in my log I found on my own
without any outside help.

I guess some of us are part of a dying breed, we actually know what a
contest means and how to operate in a contest without cheating.

MAL               N7MAL
BULLHEAD CITY, AZ