[CQ-Contest] AA log submission

[N7MAL]

Brett the problem for those of us who use CT is CT won't generate a Cabrillo file for the AA contest. In the header there is this message:

SOAPBOX:       
Cabrillo Format not yet implemented for this contest
END-OF-LOG:   

CT users are stuck using the manual robot at JARL. I don't blame K1EA for not including Cabrillo for AA because it's not supported by JARL. I also don't lay any blame on Trey N5KO. Trey developed what was supposed to be a 'standard'. Other folks decided they were smarter than the 'standard' and decided to change it, thereby no longer making it 'standard'.
We are all between a rock and hard place on this issue. We all become aware of it, every year,  because of problems submitting logs to JARL for AA.


MAL              N7MAL
BULLHEAD CITY, AZ
http://www.ctaz.com/~suzyq/N7mal.htm

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: VR2BrettGraham 
  To: cq-contest at contesting.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 0:48
  Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] AA log submission


  JF1SQC added:

  > > >Though JARL recommend their own format to submit your AA logs,
  > > >of course they ALSO ACCEPT CABRILLO and any types of format.
  > >
  > > Not sure how to do the latter - as UA9CDC pointed out, there is
  > > no JARL anything in Cabrillo specification.
  ><snip bit on CONTEST: field>
  >
  >Well, there are no definitions...
  >It is right to say JARL may accept Cabrillo LIKE logs.

  Yes, that is a better way to put it.  The word "Cabrillo" clearly implies
  the Cabrillo standard.

  >I confirmed JARL the ROBOT checks the following fields
  >when your Cabrillo LIKE log is received:
  >  START-OF-LOG:  2.0
  >  CALLSIGN:
  >  CATEGORY:
  >  CLAIMED-SCORE:
  >  ADDRESS:
  >  NAME:
  >  QSO:
  >  END-OF-LOG:
  >If your log contains all of said fields suitably,
  >it will be accepted automatically.

  There is one other thing - QSO template.  If JARL were to indicate
  which _existing_ Cabrillo QSO template it would prefer to be used,
  then what you describe above is a very practical way for a contest
  sponsor to use Cabrillo, even if the Cabrillo specification has
  _nothing_ in it for that contest.

  >"CONTEST: contest-name" field is not necessary,
  >but it is preferable to write such as
  >  CONTEST: AA-CW
  >  CONTEST: ALL-ASIA-CW

  It is _not_ preferable, as there is _nothing_ in the specification for
  the CONTEST: field for All-Asia contest.

  This is where Cabrillo goes wrong - nobody, absolutely _nobody_
  can say what Cabrillo is other than N5KO.  Little, although well-
  meaning deviations from the specification such as the above are
  not helping.

  Perhaps JARL could try to get All-Asia into the Cabrillo spec.
  It would be interesting to see if they could do it - but if not, then
  work _with_ the existing spec - use only things as they are defined.

  Leaving out what is a mandatory field like CONTEST: goes against
  the specification, but IMHO this is better than really twisting things
  by making up stuff up like a contest name or some of the things
  other contest sponsors do.

  Thanks for your QSP from JARL, Sei.

  73, VR2BrettGraham

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