[CQ-Contest] 2005 Dayton Forum Wrap Up
Joe Subich, K4IK
k4ik at subich.com
Fri Jun 10 10:14:34 EDT 2005
> I think those other, smaller groups don't have the issue that
> the contest or DX groups had with the rooms at Hara being too
> small. Having the contesters and DXers leave opens up those
> small rooms for their use, and for other smaller groups.
Those "other, smaller groups" have not always been so small and
may not be so small in the future. I know there have been issues
between each of them and the Hamvention Committee over the years.
Just as with the Antenna and Contest forums, the issues have been
room space, date/time, length of the forum, the ability to do
multiple "sub interest" sessions, etc.
Just as interest in DX or contesting will wane and fall over time,
these interests will come and go. Digital will grow with the advent
of new modes, rule changes allowing additional flexibility and
(hopefully) new blood who are digital/data oriented. Interest in
AMSAT will increase based on the launch/availability of satellite
opportunities. Weak signal VHF/VHF interest will increase with
the adoption of digital techniques and equipment that bring
new capabilities within the reach of more modestly equipped
> I don't see this as the beginning of the end for Hamvention.
> After all, 500 to 600 people out of 24,000 don't really matter
> - do they? Also, every one of those groups you mention,
> already has their own activities. Granted, many of them are
> at night but the segmentation is already in place.
To paraphrase the late Senator Everett Dirksen, "500 here, 200
there, pretty soon that adds up to real loss of attendance!"
> I think you're painting a much bleaker picture than what we
> really have. As I said previously, the way I would expect it
> to go, is that the DX Forum would be at the Crowne plaza Friday
> afternoon to precede their DX Dinner.
I think you're ignoring the evidence from folks like K7JA and
N1IK. I've been around long enough remember the $100's of
thousands of dollars of volume done by many vendors in years
past ... of vendors (not manufacturers) with huge booths not
one or two tables. I know several who no longer attend or tell
me their sales no longer cover the cost ...
> So, instead of going to sit in one of the tiny, smelly rooms,
> the DXers will go to the hotel 4 or 5 hours sooner.
And if that DX also attends the antenna/contest forums on Saturday
or some other forum (weak signal UHF/VHF?) of interest moves off
site on another day, that Dxer may not make it to the arena for
the entire weekend.
> From what I have heard, the ideas floating about the contest
> university would have that run on Thursday at the hotel.
> No conflict there.
That may be the talk now. However, when the calls come to move
it to Friday so guys don't have to take another day off work
and pay for another night in the hotel, how long do you think
it will take to make the move?
> I do not think this is going to be the beginning of the end for
> the Hamvention.
No, this is an acceleration of the decline of Hamvention that
has been going on for the past 10 years or so.
> For myself, I plan on going to Hara other than Saturday
> afternoon. I actually like doing that too. I don't think
> there's anything that makes this a mutually exclusive situation.
If everybody were off site for only one half-day that might
work. However, many amateurs have multiple interests and
soon a half-day here, half-day there makes a serious dent
in the traffic for the exhibitors. Without the exhibitor
support Hamvention will quickly go the way of SAROC or the
Without the rest of Hamvention, the contest activities in
Dayton will become just another W9DXCC or Visalia.
> After all, we're only 4 or 5% of the total Hamvention
> population, so what's the problem?
Read K7JA and N1IK's postings and try to understand.
... Joe, K4IK
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