[CQ-Contest] What to log?

[Gerry Hull]

Hi Brett,

You said:
"Of 15423 raw W & VE calls, 17 are Ws in VE or vice versa.  Of the
7 VEs in W, all calls are correct.  Of the 10 Ws in VE, half of the calls
are incorrect (must be call/VE#, not VE#/call)."

Well, actually, it's perfectly valid to sign, for example, VE1/W1VE or
W1VE/VE1 (Not for me, since I hold a Canadian license also.)
The W1VE/VE1 is the generally accepted method and arrangement between the US
and Canada.  The VE1/W1VE form is the CEPT method.
The US still prefers VE1RM/W1, for example.   However, I bet the FCC would
not have a hissy if someone signed  the form W1/VE1RM (I might!).
In fact, I've heard lots of Canadians on the air from the US using the CEPT
form.

Therefore, these are all valid callsigns, and the contest software is smart
enough to know what country the station is actually in.

73,

Gerry, W1VE, VE1RM, VY2CDX, VE9XDX, VO1WIN


>From the rac website, http://www.rac.ca/regulatory/rcip.htm
"There is no need for paperwork or other formalities when exchanging visits
between Canada and the United States. Under the terms of the agreement, the
visitor should give his or her call sign and location, e.g. VE3FRS/W9 or
N9CFX/VE3. However, it is unlikely that anyone would complain if the form
VE3/N9CFX were used."



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Subject: [CQ-Contest] What to log?

K5ZD's release of the latest SCP file gave me a chance to look at this.

I go through the file, as there are a lot of duplicates in it (whether USA
station having to sign /something for some contests, or the apparently
outdoor-loving SP5s, as seemingly half of them appear a second time as /5
;^).  And there is the occasional N02R (instead of NO2R), too.

Of 15423 raw W & VE calls, 17 are Ws in VE or vice versa.  Of the
7 VEs in W, all calls are correct.  Of the 10 Ws in VE, half of the calls
are incorrect (must be call/VE#, not VE#/call).

What should you do?  Some of these are probably like FM/TO4A, but when
somebody calls you & you know that's not a valid call, what to do?

Closest thing to this I can think of is YU4.  VR2BG master log of some 125k
Qs has 36 YU4s in it, of which 24 were in a contest.
This is from 1999 to present & I see I still am working the occasional
YU4 even in 2005.  I went through all the log check files I have & I don't
see loosing any YU4 Qs.

As I understand it, YU4s really shouldn't count - but I still work them.
Although some may argue that portable front-or-rear is a minor issue, the
callsign for W<>VE operation is clear - must be portable-on-the-end.

Log what he should be sending or log what he actually sent?
Interestingly, the best example I can find is 1Z9A - who was flagged as an
incorrect zone (I logged the 31 sent), but so far, no penalties for
instances of logging-what-was-sent-although-I-know-better best I can tell.

73, VR2BrettGraham

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