[CQ-Contest] WW SSB - the corruptive influence of packet

[N7MAL]

That is precisely the attitude that will lead to the eventual end of contesting. 


MAL         N7MAL
BULLHEAD CITY, AZ
http://www.ctaz.com/~suzyq/N7mal.htm
http://geocities.com/n7mal/
Don't worry about the world coming to an end today.
It's already tomorrow in Australia
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: David Robbins K1TTT 
  To: cq-contest at contesting.com 
  Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 12:09
  Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] WW SSB - the corruptive influence of packet


  Trying to ask node sysops to shut down during a contest would be a futile
  effort.  The spotting network was designed and constructed by and for
  contesters and will not shutdown just because someone thinks they want a
  contest without it.  you can suggest this all you want, but it just ain't
  going to happen.


  David Robbins K1TTT
  e-mail: mailto:k1ttt at arrl.net
  web: http://www.k1ttt.net
  AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
   

  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com [mailto:cq-contest-
  > bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of N7MAL
  > Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 23:22
  > To: Bill Parry; cq-contest at contesting.com
  > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] WW SSB - the corruptive influence of packet
  > 
  > And therein is the problem. You, and others, said: ""Outlawing packet
  > tomorrow would not
  > have the impact that many might hope. We have large numbers of stations
  > that
  > are not entering the contest but just hoping to work a few new
  > countries.""
  > 
  > How do you know? Why not give it a try? Voluntarily ask all the nodes to
  > shut down during CQWWCW. My prediction is the only loser will be the
  > sponsor because a majority of the scores will be down. Contesting without
  > a crutch, what an intriguing concept.
  > Again I ask why not give it a try?
  > 
  > 
  > MAL         N7MAL
  > BULLHEAD CITY, AZ
  > http://www.ctaz.com/~suzyq/N7mal.htm
  > http://geocities.com/n7mal/
  > Don't worry about the world coming to an end today.
  > It's already tomorrow in Australia
  >   ----- Original Message -----
  >   From: Bill Parry
  >   To: cq-contest at contesting.com
  >   Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 0:10
  >   Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] WW SSB - the corruptive influence of packet
  > 
  > 
  >   Folks,
  > 
  >   I realize that packet causes lots of problems in contests but it is not
  > the
  >   cause of all evil in contesting. There have been lots of stations that
  >   identify infrequently for years...certainly before packet was in common
  > use.
  > 
  >   It is really easy to blame the things you don't like for the all the
  >   foolishness we hear in the contests. Outlawing packet tomorrow would not
  >   have the impact that many might hope. We have large numbers of stations
  > that
  >   are not entering the contest but just hoping to work a few new
  > countries.
  >   (We hope lots and lots of these stations.) They will continue to use
  > packet
  >   and cause whatever negative consequences that result.
  > 
  >   Considering the large numbers of Multi's, assisted stations and stations
  >   that don't enter the contests, the numbers of S/O stations improperly
  > using
  >   packet is probably a pretty small percentage. This isn't to say that
  > what
  >   they are doing is right. It is not. I just think that the number is
  > pretty
  >   small considering all the "smoke and fire" that this topic has
  > generated.
  > 
  >   Hopefully, any change in the contest rules will be well-considered.
  > Changes
  >   can have both positive and negative consequences. I sure hope that we
  > don't
  >   make the rules so "pristine" that it's no fun anymore.
  > 
  >   Bill, W5VX
  > 
  > 
  > 
  >   >
  >   >The really annoying thing I found this weekend were the stations
  >   >who were only identifying every 5 or 10 minutes because they
  >   >had a steady diet of packet assisted stations feeding their pileups
  >   >who knew their callsign a priori. As a single-op unassisted, it's a
  >   >royal PITA when you are trying to make the most of your operating
  >   >time to have to sit on a frequency for 5 or 10 minutes listening to a
  >   >huge pileup and wondering if you really need that station for a
  >   >multiplier because he won't identify.
  >   >
  >   >Packet can be fun if your just chasing DX, so I won't rain on
  >   >packet user's parade (sometimes I am a packet user), but I just
  >   >wish that the rare DX in the contests wouldn't assume that we
  >   >are all using it all the time. Send your call each QSO like
  >   >ZD8Z/N6TJ does.
  >   >
  >   >73 de Mike, W4EF.....................................................
  >   >
  >   >
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