[CQ-Contest] 1 pointers for CQWW - More data

w0mu w0mu at w0mu.com
Wed Nov 30 21:05:41 EST 2005

If it were not for the times when we get good rate contesting would be a

Nothing like running 300+ an hour from the Carib in the ARRL DX Test..WOW 

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A little pistol VE's perspective.  No opinion - just a couple of thoughts

60% of my Q's (311 out of 517) were with W's.  230 of them were made in the
last 3 hours.  I find contesting a lot more fun when making Q's than when
I'm not (which is a lot of the time).  So, for me, it's a real rush just
running W's at the end.

I would venture to say that there are probably lots of W small pistols who
would love to be able to do the same, just for the sake of making lots of
Qs.  So, if the W-W Q was worth 1 point, I think we'd see a lot more small
pistol W's trying to run and having a better time than they do now.  Would
that be a good thing?  For them it would.  However, with a bunch more W's
running, it might make it harder to hear the DX.  As always, a change is
better for some folks and worse for others.

73, Jim   VE7FO

Richard L. King wrote:

>Re-read my post Ken. We actually made a lot more than 300 USA to USA 
>QSOs, 613 to be exact. As I said, it was 19% of our total QSOs made.
>And yes, I would expect to make more QSOs if the 1 point rule was 
>implemented. But since it would effect everyone equally, I don't see 
>any major scoring changes shifting to the mid-west. It would just 
>eliminate a real contest oddity where you are forced to work USA to USA 
>QSOs and not get any value from it other than 6 multipliers.
>I can't ethically refuse to work those people since I may be a mult for
>73, Richard
>At 19:30 11/30/2005, Kenneth E. Harker wrote:
>>On Wed, Nov 30, 2005 at 04:54:19PM +0000, Richard King K5NA wrote:
>>>I took this one step further and gave each of the USA QSOs one QSO 
>>>point and recalculated our score. This brought our score to the 5.2M 
>>>point range. This was not enough for us to catch W4MYA and move up a 
>>>notch in the M/M scoring. Our place in the 3830 standings stayed 
>>>exactly the same, at 10th place.
>>>So tell me again how getting 1 QSO point for every same country QSO 
>>>is going to dramatically alter the flavor of the CQWW Contest. But 
>>>this time try to convince me with some real data.
>>If USA-USA QSOs were worth one point apiece, you'd make a lot more 
>>than 300 USA-USA QSOs during the weekend.
>>Kenneth E. Harker WM5R
>>kenharker at kenharker.com
>k5na at texas.net
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