[CQ-Contest] Listening to K5ZD audio

Kelly Taylor ve4xt at mts.net
Sat Oct 29 22:38:41 EDT 2005

I would like to say this with the greatest of respect for all people sharing
their opinions, but really, did anybody even listen to the K5ZD audio before
proffering an opinion?

Sheesh, all I heard was a few "QRZ contest, K5Zulu Delta"s before a bunch of
buzzes and whines and crackles made the whole exercise worthless. (A valiant
attempt, I might add.) But you can't tell what band he's on, whether the QSO
you're hearing is on radio 1 or 2 or what band each radio is on.

I think any attempt to use this idea as a way to cheat by having a "remote
receiver" in Western Mass. is a fool's gambit at best.

So, hands down, it's not something I'd spend another minute fretting about.
It's just NOT worth it.

On the other hand, if the tech can be perfected, it might be a good tool to
entice others to join contesting. So in that vein, how could it be bad?

73, kelly
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Doug Smith W9WI" <w9wi at earthlink.net>
To: "cq-contest" <cq-contest at contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 9:11 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Listening to K5ZD audio

> On Wed, 2005-10-26 at 08:25, Cqtestk4xs at aol.com wrote:
> > Listening to K5ZD's audio is no different from listening to him on your
> > second radio if you are a SO2R guy.  However, the source (Internet) is
> > and that might make a difference
> The difference is that your SO2R second radio is within 500m of the rest
> of your station.  I *do* believe that using the K5ZD live audio at a
> single-op-unassisted station is against the rules.
> At a multiop, (or SO-assisted) IMHO it becomes a bit of a gray area.  Is
> it a form of spotting?  (which would be permissible)  Or is it a
> receiver off the station premises?  (which isn't)  Looks like an area
> where the technology has gotten ahead of the rules.
> > As for "breaking the rules"....nope.  Randy is in the clear.
> Absolutely.
> It is possible *someone else* could break the rules by misusing the
> information Randy is offering.
> It is possible someone could use the score reports posted on ARRL.org to
> determine someone's section without copying it on the air.  It is
> possible someone could look me up on QRZ.com if he didn't copy my name
> in Sprint.
> Stuff happens.  People cheat.  It's not like we're handing out $5,000
> prizes for winning CQ WW.  If we hold back on technologies that might be
> fun for some entrants -- that might even attract new entrants -- just
> because someone, somewhere might use them to cheat -- then I think we're
> being counter-productive.
> Don't know if I'll have my real-time scoring system working for CQ WW
> this weekend.  (it'll be a very part-time effort in any case)  If I do,
> I sure won't be having any ethical worries about it.
> -- 
> Doug Smith W9WI
> Pleasant View (Nashville), TN  EM66
> http://www.w9wi.com
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