[CQ-Contest] MIDCARS

Wed Nov 22 15:51:25 EST 2006

I am not against the net but I question why it is 5 hours long. Most nets do not  need to be more than an hour at most. Then there is the WAS net. LOL get WAS without turning your VFO net. A joke IMHO. Then there is the nets in the AM that go on forever with the 20th call to coffee. So, there should be some type of formal time limits on how long your net should be inorder to free up the airwaves for other users. 

  One Concern I have is what will happen when the General band is reframed to allow 40 meter phone down to 7.175 and 80M to 3800. Will the nets move in there also. For instance I am a general class license and I have trouble contesting in the 80M band since everyone avoids the about 3850 area. I could have had a sweep if two stations would had been in the general portion of the band on 80M. 

  This last summer I had a NTS net on 7.253 come on and just started up on top of my Special event station calling CQ without asking me if the frequency was in use while everyone on the net about 40-50 ops all complained how I was causing such great QRM, I should move, because the net is going on. Yet they never asked me t omove nicely nor did the control ope of the net ask if the Freq was in use. They then mock you while your there thinking they are int he right. 
  Then you have to be nice to them. 

  Then there are those places where you start to call CQ after asking 4-5 times. No net is there but the the ops are monitoring the freq so the come to radio saying it is in use. So, my theory. Listen for 2 mins. If there is no QSO I just call CQ. Seems to work all the time. that way if it has been longer than 2 mins someone should be there. 

N7MAL <N7MAL at CITLINK.NET> wrote:
          Out here in the west there is a daily net at 1600Z on 7250. It is run by WB6NOA as some kind-of psuedo emergency net. Numerous complaints have been made to Mr. Riley and he has refused to take any action, essentially giving ownership, of 7250, to WB6NOA. A year or so ago I listened to that frequency during several contests and felt sorry for the poor contester who even tried to CQ. He didn't stand a chance. Sometimes it depends on other outside factors to determine frequency ownership. I can remember midcars from my W9 days and that has been at least 35 years ago.
  73

  MAL       
N7MAL
BULLHEAD CITY, AZ
http://www.ctaz.com/~suzyq/N7mal.htm

    ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Paul J. Piercey 
  To: 'Sean D. Fleming' ; cq-contest at contesting.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 19:01
  Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] MIDCARS

To your first question....

Yes, there are several actually. Check out
http://www.rac.ca/service/awards.htm for more info.

Secondly, you should know by now that nets "own" the frequencies they use
and protect them vigorously. They fall into the same category as dx windows,
mode windows and calling frequencies as space that cannot be used for any
other purpose than that for which they are named. If you were to determine
all the nets worldwide, all the space reserved for certain modes only and
the space reserved in case someone else wants to use it, there is roughly 6
kcs per band allocated to general use and which contesters are permitted to
use. It's a good thing contesting is a dying activity.

:)

73 -- Paul VO1HE  

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com 
> [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Sean 
> D. Fleming
> Sent: November 22, 2006 18:25
> To: cq-contest at contesting.com
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] MIDCARS
> 
> First of all. I must make note that I worked 77 sections. I 
> wonder if there is an award for working every providence in Canada. 
>    
>   Secondly, I was working the contest for some time on 7.260 
> on SUnday Afternoon when the midcars people were saying I was 
> causing QRM to them on 7.258. 
>    
>   I know that on a contest weekend that being 3khz spacing 
> never occurs it is more like 2. With that said. My main 
> question is why is it the Midcars net goes from 0900 - 1400 
> hrs Eastern Time. this is 5 hours long. I know of no other 
> net that does this. Most of the time there is no active QSO 
> there but if you ask if the frequency is in use someone will 
> come back and say yes, they are Monitoring. Monitoring is not 
> having a QSO. So, is the net really that long? I believe that 
> the MIDCARS is trying to hold the frequency for a good cause 
> for mobiles that want to talk  and check in. But, maybe they 
> should ask the FCC to get that frequency as a national 
> calling mobile frequency.  I had asked one operator who was 
> asking me to move what time the net was over they came back 
> and said, "when ever the last checkin is" I aksed if this was 
> an open ended. I feel that this is not right. There should be 
> a limit placed on thier net as far as time. 
>    
>   Sean K8KHZ
> 
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