[CQ-Contest] Live Audio - K5ZD for CQ WW CW

[W0MU Mike Fatchett]

I am fairly certain that he did this last year too and I don't recall his
entry being disqualified.

I think they have already spoken by not speaking on the matter.

Mike W0MU 

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[mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Russell Hill
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 7:12 PM
To: k3bu at optonline.net; cq-contest at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Live Audio - K5ZD for CQ WW CW

Noting that:  "Action and decisions of the CQ WW Contest Committee are
official and final." as mentioned, why not let the CQ WW Contest Committee
DQ Randy if they think it appropriate?  He is hardly hiding the fact that he
will be live streaming.

Let them decide.  If they don't DQ him then it must be OK.

73, Rusty, na5tr



----- Original Message -----
From: <k3bu at optonline.net>
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Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 11:43 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Live Audio - K5ZD for CQ WW CW


>
> Randy K5ZD wrote:
>
>> The non-amateur means rule applies only during the contest. You can take
>> out network TV adverts before the contest announcing your
>> operation if you want.
>>
>
> Streaming audio or video IS DURING the contest and soliciting stations to 
> "work me" (and hear yourself - reward).
> Additional "advertising" is before the contest - making it known "I will 
> be on, streaming.
>
> Why did CQ WW CC asked about the opinions about the real time score board?

> That pales in comparison to "work me - you can hear yourself" real time. 
> We should get CQ WW CC ruling on this, before everybody starts "screaming"

> live whatever. As it stands now, it is a matter for disqualification 
> according to rules:
>
>>>The use by an entrant of any non-amateur means such as telephones, 
>>>telegrams,
> internet, or the use of packet to SOLICIT contacts during the contest is
> unsportsmanlike and the entry is subject to disqualification. Action and 
> decisions of
> the CQ WW Contest Committee are official and final.<<
>
>
>
>> As for the motivation to work one station over another, there
>> are many elements of that. Some guys only work rare stations. Does that
>> make it unfair to be rare? Some guys only work their friends. Or the 
>> loudest
>> signals. Is it unfair to be well known or loud?
>>
>
> Motivation and solicitation by non-amateur means as outlined in the rules 
> are two, way different things.
>
>> Randy, K5ZD
>>
>
> Call me Luddite or old fashioned, but trying to follow the spirit and 
> meaning of rules.
> Rather than having streaming audio or video I would suggest that having 
> real logs published on the web (after the contest log submission deadline)

> would be much better motivation and education for little pistols and big 
> guns. Another big plus - deterrent to blatant cheaters by having logs 
> available for scrutiny by competition.
>
> (OK, what is the REAL reason for streaming? Demonstrate how wonderful 
> (good looking) or magnificent operator one is? In my book, any real life, 
> anything, during the contest is distraction to serious contesters. If one 
> wants to lure little pistols and bystanders, than I can see the benefit 
> (solicitation).
>
> Just this OF opinion.
>
> Yuri, K3BU
>
> Let's have a log deadline 7 days after the contest, 21 days process the 
> logs and post rough results and logs, another 14 days for corrections etc.

> and publish final results. That would be progress and encouragement to 
> participate. Now we are streaming real time wannabe stars and waiting 9 
> months for the birth of the results. Welcome to 21 century and computer 
> age!
>
>
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