[CQ-Contest] Real Time Scoreboards

[Guy Molinari]

Sorry Robert, my mistake.   I was assuming that the log detail would be exposed.   I would definately participate in this type of system as well as 3830.
 
73 - Guy, N7ZG


From: k0rc at citlink.netTo: cq-contest at contesting.comCC: guy_molinari at hotmail.comSubject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Real Time ScoreboardsDate: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 14:16:53 -0500



Guy,
 
Please help me understand what you mean in your second sentence below.
 
My concept is logs would be submitted and processed by the contest sponser but only summary sheet information would be posted back to the internet for all to see.
 
I don't know how you could correct your log from this limited data.
 
73 de Bob - KØRC in MN
 
------------------------------Message: 3Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 15:06:57 +0000From: Guy Molinari <guy_molinari at hotmail.com>Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Real Time ScoreboardsTo: "Vladimir V. Sidorov" <vs_otw at rogers.com>,<cq-contest at contesting.com>, <live at cqww.com>Message-ID: <BAY104-W8AB80834CEC591EC86E3DE8020 at phx.gbl>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"I this is an interesting idea Vlad.   The problem would be that cheaters would find and catch logging errors posted by others before submitting theirs.   The whole process would become an online auction of sorts.  ;-).   I think if the log deadline were shortened considerably, again this is the 21st century right?   This would alienate the guys sending in paper logs though (I think).   One way to solve this might be to shorten the log deadline.   Say you have 2 hours (arbitrary number) to submit for consideration and then the online results can be viewed subject to adjudication.    Would this be a problem for the casual op?   The casual guys are bread and butter right? <soapbox mode on>I dunno.  IMHO, this is radio contesting not a general technology competition.  I'm a relatively younger newcomer who is a software engineer by trade.   I say this because I'm not afraid of computer technologies, the Internet, progress, etc.   I think these kind of changes have to be carefully considered.   We cant just say demagogically, "You are holding up progress".</soapbox mod off> I'm just excited to play radio over the coming weeks! 73 - Guy, N7ZG> From: vs_otw at rogers.com> To: cq-contest at contesting.com; live at cqww.com> Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 08:10:28 -0500> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Real Time Scoreboards> > Please kindly consider the 2 following ideas.> > --- Would't it be better just to publish full contest results in 1-2 months > after it's over? Virtually the interest to the online scores has come (IMO) > because people is tired to see results of the contest only just before the > NEXT YEAR'S one, when all emotions calmed down and all memories went > South...> Somehow RSGB has recently released (on a perfect way BTW) results of the > IOTA contest which took place less than 3 months ago...> > The CQ Contest Commitee does realize that basic (OK, claimed) results can be > seen/traced even ONLINE nowaydays, during the contest itself. Then why the > Commitee still needs 11 months to publish official results???> It's the 21st Century, gentlemen!> > > --- And another idea, never seen anywhere so far. Actually, its a kind o f > revolution, eventually, not more not less...> > Why don't you consider the LOG CHECKING PROCESS traceable online?> I mean, with every log arriving to you, more and more logs will be checked > vs. eachother and you publish the results online. Like, there are 5 logs > arrived, they are cross-checked and the finner so far is XXX. Then there > come 100 more logs, and the winner turns to be YYY at this stage...> I am pretty sure, people will watch your site non-stop or at least will jump > into that very often. It will be such a show!... A real show. Nobody will > need 3830 or online scores amymore (is it good or bad, I don't know), > because the REAL show begins right after the contest...> It can be even made widely public, offered to TV or so to broadcast it every > a few hours or days...> > How about that?> > > Thanks and 73,> > Vladimir VE3IAE - EU1SA> > ---> > > > >> >> > Dear Fellow Contester,> >> > The CQ WW Contest Committee is discussing whether use of real-time> > c ontest scoreboards is likely to convey information about band> > openings and profitable tactics to an extent that participants using> > the scoreboards should be categorized as assisted. The 2006 CQ WW contest> > rules have already been published and they will govern the 2006 contests.> >> > We welcome your comments on this, and suggest the possibility of also> > sending the comments to the CQ-Contest reflector so that others can> > see them and possibly follow up.> >> > Comments can be sent to live at cqww.com> >> >> > 73> > Bob, K3EST> > CQ WW Director> > For the CQ WW Committee> > _______________________________________________> > CQ-Contest mailing list> > CQ-Contest at contesting.com> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest> > > > _______________________________________________> CQ-Contest mailing list> CQ-Contest at contesting.com> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest_________________________________________________________________Check the weather nationwide with MSN Search: Try it now!http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=weather&FORM=WLMTAG
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