[CQ-Contest] cheating with packet - RD3A case

[Tõnno Vähk]

Laurent,

I did a lot of manual work with Excel and unfortunately have not had time yet to go through several interesting monoband logs for example due to the time it takes.

To determine what stations are new mults I used WinTest to mark the mults, imported the logs into Excel..too much details to describe here. Can explain you in private if you want.

Anyway, this is too much handwork. We are developing much more automated software now and those things will be soon much easier to produce. Still for final check I believe you always need to have an experienced contester looking over the results and suspicious log. If you have run SOAB Un-assisted before then you know that when the 20m band is wide open with strong local signals it is impossible to stop you run and suddenly work 3-4 new mults on the same band on completely different parts of the band within 2 minutes for example. This is just completely unhuman, especially if you are SO1R and when all those mults have been recently spotted:)

For that matter I fully agree that it would be extremely good to have all logs open right after the deadline for everyone's inspection. I guess it does only good by first disciplinizing participants and secondly helping Committee to locate suspicious ones.

Also, I support Scott's idea about recordings. If not required then it would be good to collect the recordings from top stations and recommend strongly to upload those. Those should also be publicly available the same as logs (of course Committee is not gonna listen to all of them:)! The same with web cams, why not. If majority of the top stations adhere to those recommendations that would be really great and demonstrate the fair play in the top and be a great role model for others.

Another thing is to require logging exact frequencies in CQWW. Should be obligatory for top logs.

It would be really interesting to have a referee at all the top stations one year and see what the scores will look like then but this is just a dream now I guess but still if we get most of the other things above done then we have already made contesting a much better and much more enjoyable place.

73
tonno
es5tv



-----Original Message-----
From: cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Laurent Ferracci
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 4:19 PM
To: CQ Contest
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] cheating with packet - RD3A case

Tõnno Vähk a écrit :

> I compared the worked S&P QSOs and worked S&P MULTS against the cluster spots in the last 20 minutes before the QSO. 

Hi Tonno,

I would be interested in knowing how you did, in details, to produce 
this interesting report. Do you do that by hand (ex: To determine wether 
a single QSO is a new mult, to compare with a spots database..), have 
you developped some "tools", do you have some useful hints ?

It would be nice if we could all run such tests ourself.

Thanks
-- 
Laurent Ferracci, F1JKJ
Blog radio: http://www.ferracci.org

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