[CQ-Contest] Self Spotting

[Kelly Taylor]

The two work hand in hand. The rule against self spotting clearly says "In 
contests were spotting is allowed..."

Why would the General Rules says "In contests where spotting is allowed..." 
if the General Rules weren't intended to govern the contests where spotting 
is allowed?

What 1.1 does is give individual contests the ability to include rules that 
run contrary to General Rules. It does not mean that once you are in a 
specific contest, you toss the General Rules.

For example: let's say the League wanted to start a mini contest like the 
NCCC Sprint. It allows for dupes. 1.1 gives the rule writer the ability to 
say "dupes are allowed after one intervening QSO" and that rule would take 
precedence over anything in the General Rules against dupes. But that rule 
contravening the General Rules doesn't make the rest of the General Rules 
moot.

That's always been clear to me. I don't understand why it's now unclear to 
some.

The General Rules are intended to not have to make every contests' rules 
include all the General Rules AND all the contests' rules.

73, kelly
ve4xt


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <ku8e at bellsouth.net>
To: <cq-contest at contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Self Spotting


> It says on the first line of the General Rules for All ARRL Contests :
>
> 1.1.Rules for individual contests or events, including Field Day, take 
> precedence over all General Rules.
>
>>
>> From: <ve4xt at mts.net>
>> Date: 2007/03/05 Mon PM 03:35:11 EST
>> To: <ku8e at bellsouth.net>, <cq-contest at contesting.com>
>> Subject: Re: Re: [CQ-Contest] Self Spotting
>>
>> Specific contest rules do override the general rules, but only when the
>> specific contest rules and general rules are in disagreement.
>>
>> When the specific contest rules are silent on certain issues, the general
>> rules then prevail.
>>
>> 73, kelly
>> ve4xt
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > From: <ku8e at bellsouth.net>
>> > Date: 2007/03/05 Mon PM 01:22:52 CST
>> > To: <cq-contest at contesting.com>
>> > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Self Spotting
>> >
>> > It also says the rules for a specific contest override the general 
>> > rules,
>> which is one of the rules George quoted.
>> >
>> > Does that mean the statement for SOA and multi-ops in the actual ARRL
>> DX Contest rules
>> >
>> > "2.2.1.Use of spotting assistance or nets (operating arrangements
>> involving other individuals, DX-alerting nets, packet, etc) not 
>> physically
>> located at the station IS permitted."  can be interepted that
>> > you CAN self spot ??  Especially the part about "operating
>> arrangements involving other individuals"
>> >
>> >
>> > Jeff
>> >
>> > >
>> > > From: George Fremin III <geoiii at kkn.net>
>> > > Date: 2007/03/05 Mon PM 01:53:01 EST
>> > > To: ku8e at bellsouth.net
>> > > CC: cq-contest at contesting.com
>> > > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Self Spotting
>> > >
>> > > On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 11:13:06AM -0500, ku8e at bellsouth.net
>> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > > >  It appears from the rules that while self-spotting is frowned upon
>> > > > it is only a violation of the rules in ARRL DX if you are Single -
>> > > > Op - Unassisted.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > It is in the rules and it is no allowed.
>> > >
>> > > http://www.arrl.org/contests/announcements/rules-all.html
>> > >
>> > > 3.14. In contests where spotting nets are permissible, spotting your
>> > > own station or requesting another station to spot you is not
>> > > permitted.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > The ARRL rules were split up into several parts in an effort to save
>> > > space when printing them in QST.  But they should be put back
>> together
>> > > so you do not have to go to diffrent places on the web. ie. all the
>> > > rules should be in each contest's rules.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > -- 
>> > > George Fremin III - K5TR
>> > > geoiii at kkn.net
>> > > http://www.kkn.net/~k5tr
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
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