[CQ-Contest] Remote Contesting

[Richard DiDonna NN3W]

That's pretty much what I had thought about.  Obviously for county contests, 
unless you;re a rover, the antennas/radios/etc would have to be all in the 
same county.

I guess the one concern might be the notion of the same zone.  Zone 5 is 
pretty big - running from Florida to Maine and points east.  Perhaps 
limiting them to the same state might make this more realistic...

73 Rich NN3W

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Neiger" <n6tj at sbcglobal.net>
To: <vo1he at rac.ca>; <cq-contest at contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 6:29 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Remote Contesting


> Outstanding words and visions from Paul.  Because somebody CAN do it, does
> it follow that they SHOULD?  Self-serving logic to the maximum.
>
> If some are keen to "remote" in a contest, fine.  But the rules should
> stipulate that all the radios, antennas, and operators are within the same
> contest multiplier entity: WAZ Zone, DXCC Country, State, Province, etc,
> whichever is smaller.
>
> Jim Neiger   N6TJ
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Paul J. Piercey" <p.piercey at nl.rogers.com>
> To: <cq-contest at contesting.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 9:52 AM
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Remote Contesting
>
>
>>
>>
>> <<<NB --- "you" and "your" as referenced in my little diatribe is the
>> collective "you" and "your" and not you specifically.>>>
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com
>>> [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Tom Taormina
>>> Sent: March 28, 2007 23:09
>>> To: cq-contest at contesting.com
>>> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Remote Contesting
>>>
>>> This is starting to sound like the discussions of 30 years
>>> ago about packet that led to SO-A class entries.
>>>
>>
>> And people still get confused as to what constitutes "assistance" so, if
>> you
>> ask me, this issue hasn't been resolved yet. Why jump into another one?
>>
>>> Part of the future of our hobby is symbiosis with computers
>>> and the Internet. I suggest that remote stations, and even
>>> remote stations for hire, are going to be part of the
>>> landscape of contesting within a few years. We had best look
>>> forward to a new set of categories to accommodate SO, MS, M2,
>>> MM remote operating. Think of how inventive we could get if
>>> we made it a wide-open category, i.e., no geographic
>>> boundaries on the remote locations! What a hoot that might be.
>>> Imagine the rates you could have running a remote in EA9 from
>>> an apartment in Sheboygan?
>>>
>>> Maybe it's just me, but I always look at what is and think
>>> about what is possible. The status quo is for old fogies with
>>> no vision.
>>
>> I have to take exception to this characterization as I am neither old nor
>> am
>> I "Fogie"-ish. And my vision is perfect. I don't want the status quo. I
>> would like to see someone invent a better mousetrap... not move the
>> mousetrap and call it better.
>>
>> I am growing tired of having to defend my position against the Borg-like
>> "Resistance is futile" view of technology and progress. I find it
>> extremely
>> humourous that there is this push on to make radio, always known for its
>> ability to transcend physical media in order to pass information, so
>> heavily
>> reliant on a wired network. And this is called progress? That is funny to
>> me.
>>
>> Inventive to me was the development of the SteppIR antenna. This took an
>> already good thing and made it better. I fail to see how taking all your
>> equipment, shipping it to a foreign country and operating it remotely
>> benefits anyone but you.
>>
>> Some tried and true characteristics of amateur radio should never be
>> pushed
>> aside in the name of technology or progress and, in my opinion, the main
>> one
>> is that the operator is a key element in the operation and should be a
>> part
>> of the station. When you remove the operator from the site, you open the
>> door for removing the operator from the hobby. If you want to brag that
>> your
>> equipment beat my equipment, feel free and if you're living in an
>> apartment
>> in Sheboygan and the closest place you can set up a remote station is
>> Ceuta,
>> then there's a problem here far greater than we realize.
>>
>> Some have argued that opening the door to remote operation will increase
>> the
>> numbers of amateurs on the bands. Frankly, if they don't have the drive 
>> to
>> set up a station as best they can now, then a glorified video game is not
>> going to hold their attention for very long. Ultimately, only the truly
>> interested will stick with the hobby. This hasn't changed as long as I've
>> been a involved in the hobby.
>>
>> Having forward vision doesn't mean you won't trip on what's directly in
>> front of you and fall on your face.
>>
>> 73 -- Paul VO1HE
>>
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