[CQ-Contest] Realtime Scoreboard

Gerry Hull gerry at w1ve.com
Thu May 31 09:56:50 EDT 2007

Ed, Luis, Ev et Al...

There is lots of lively debate on this subject.  It seems the hot spot of
contention is Single-Operator, Unassisted operation.
I do not believe any of us who are pushing the concept of Live Scoreboards
are trying to change the way you operate.  No technical
advancement is going to make you change the way you do things -- unless you
perceive that the change will adversely affect you.
I personally have NO issues with how you operate, what gear you use, or what
software is employed.   To each his own.

The whole point of the live scoreboard is to make the activity more
interesting for participants and for spectators.  Yes, there are LOTS
of spectators.  From Sept 2006 - May 2007 I've had about 4.5 million hits on
the site.  I've  received lots of email from non-contesters who
enjoy watching the horse race.

The general consensus seems to be that live scoreboards are a good thing --
to a point.

I am very happy to make changes to the scoreboard system to accommodate the
community view.  However, the rules for various contests vary.
Right now, there is no rule preventing the posting/viewing of single-op
scores for any contest (that I know of)

Automatically preventing the display of single-op breakdowns is a trivial
change, but this may not be appropriate for all contests.
For the three supported logging applications, having an option to not post
breakdowns would require changes by all three authors.

I'd still like to see single-ops posting their overall QSO and multipler
counts along with score.   If you do not have access to an internet
connection, or a non-compatible contest program, so be it.  But if you are
capable of posting your score, posting it, in my opinion, will enhance
contesting and have no effect on your competitiveness.

I hope we get a ruling, before the next major contest season, on what will
be considered "legal" for live scoreboards.  Please take the time to contact
your contest committee and voice your opinions.

My door is always open for suggestions and offers of help.

73, Gerry, W1VE

On 5/30/07, Vitor Luis Aidar dos Santos, PY2NY <py2ny at arrl.net> wrote:
> I use realtime scoreboard, but not showing
> all the info... only total number of QSOs,
> etc... not band by band....
> We could sugest W1VE to allow only this
> kind of info at livescores...
> ----- Original Message -----
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> To: <cq-contest at contesting.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 7:36 AM
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Realtime Scoreboard
> >I have no issue with Rick's "call to arms" for the M/M category.  In
> fact,
> >I think anyone running assisted should use Gerry's excellent site (nice
> >work OM).
> >
> > Personally, I don't use Gerry's site for a couple of reasons:
> >
> > - To me, unassisted is just that.  While I can totally see the
> difference
> > between clicking on spots and hitting "Enter" vs observing the total
> score
> > tally, I still consider it assistance for many of the reasons sited here
> > on the reflector.  A good example was this weekend in WPX.  We had a
> > decent sparodic E opening to EU which could have amounted to much more
> Qs
> > than it did.  If it had, and I was working it, a good op watching my
> score
> > would have said "N1UR is hitting on something but my 20M rate sucks...I
> > wonder if 10 or 15 just opened?"  I defy ANYONE to not consider that
> > assistance.
> >
> > - I don't have my shack computer hooked up to the Internet.  I use TRLog
> > in DOS mode when contesting.  It works for me.  I use my laptop with
> > wireless to monitor the cluster for DX the rest of the time.  My laptop
> is
> > showing the daylight line during a contest.
> >
> > To those who mention that people like me are clinging to "old ways".  I
> > could not more disagree.  I am personally technically advanced.  I have
> > wireless laptop capability allowing me to run my business from anywhere
> in
> > the world.  I choose a hotel based on Internet capability and never walk
> > out of the house without my cell phone.
> >
> > I also have a great car that can take me anywhere at a very fast pace.
> > Yet, I run 3 times a week.  Why would I run 3 times a week when my car
> can
> > get me there.  Because I enjoy running and what it does for me
> physically.
> > And so it goes with contesting.  I enjoy tuning the dial and pulling out
> > signals.  I enjoy making my own strategic decisions and then seeing how
> I
> > fared.
> >
> > I am not trying to change or recruit anyone to "unassisted
> class".  Please
> > stop trying to change or recruit me to yous.  Enjoy what you do and
> build
> > on it...join the realtime scoreboard.  Please allow me to do the same.
> >
> > Enjoying the "love of radio".
> >
> > 73
> >
> > Ed  N1UR
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