W3CP correctly points out that I meant W3GRF, not W4GRF, in mentioning the contesting (and indeed Sweepstakes) elite of a previous era. I also could have mentioned W8MSK/W3MSK/W3AU. I liked the way those guys did things. 73 - Rich KE3Q -- Rich Boyd 301-430-5296 regular phone 301-980-7424 cellular