[CQ-Contest] Improper WPX Exchanges

[Paul Jones]

Rules are in place for a reason, if the rules states RST then, then an RST
MUST be sent.....

otherwise why do we all bother....lets just make up our own rules applicable
to just our own stations
I'm sure that would lead to chaos and would not last long.....

I'm only a small station but since starting contesting 3 years ago, I've had
a blast, lets keep it fun, but OBEY the rules

Paul
NN4F
Ridgeville, SC



On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 5:31 PM, 4O3A <yt6a at cg.yu> wrote:

> I decided not to reply on posts any more, but it goes too much in wrong
> way
> and just because of beginners in contesting I want to replay once more.
>
> Main point about 4O3A was first step to change contest approach in local
> HAM
> community and to show how easy everything can be open and transparent, and
> how broadcasting can help in many aspects - understanding competitors
> better, proving  and promoting fair play, listening and learning for lot
> of
> casual contesters and beginners. Instead to discuss that and to support
> and
> encourage others to do same, some of contesters focused on absolutely
> silly
> subject.
>
> Why silly? First at all, as one world wide known contesters said, pile up
> is
> as human bean. You have to feel it, to be inside and to drive well to keep
> it high. Sometimes rhythm is very fast, sometimes slow. Stupidity about
> having some advantages in few thousand of seconds does not have any sense,
> as many times we regards our friends on air in the middle of contest,
> spending more time on completing QSO then necessary, or calling CQ more
> than
> one times. Not needed to be explain more.
>
> Do not forget that contesting is just self-mazo wasting of time and
> sitting
> 24/36 or even 48 hours by station is not  so easy. Nobody "normal" can't
> understand point of our hobby. But, once you enter in serious contesting,
> You have to find way to be On all the time..We all have different styles
> and
> technique to do that. In huge pileups I sometimes try to make is faster,
> sometimes I am "singing", sometimes slow down to keep beginners attention
> and to encourage them to call back, or something else. And at the end,
> goal
> is to have highest score possible and to make as much as can COMPLETE
> QSOs.
> It means that lines in both logs must match. Here we are?
>
> We have to exchange something in contests- RS(T) plus NR for example. As
> all
> of us know that 59(9) is default value for RS(T)  is different is not
> sent.
> ( someone's does not? ) Than sending only variable part of report is
> absolutely enough.  Both Ops will know that  report is 59 and they will
> fill
> QSO line correctly. If you ask any of them what RS(T) was, answer will be
> right. Not a big magic.
> I understand that some of you will be more satisfied to hear FIVE NINE,
> don't you? What about FN, or %^#$#$, as shorter version of 59? Or silence?
> Or beck?? Or RST on 100 WPM on CW. You will copy that? Who care you will
> or
> not?
>
> To be silly as much as it start from beginning of that subject - in rules
> you do not have defined HOW RST should be send. You have to send it,
> anyhow.
> Beck  is one of ways, isn't it? Or silence? Why nor. In communication
> silence have the same value as noise, doesn't it?
> In running pile ups we all can have our own styles and at the end we have
> to
> complete Qs correctly. That's all. If somebody do not understand RST
> value,
> have to ask for it to be sure. But even Novice will easily understand
> point
> and default value of RST.
>
> And at the end I did contest absolutely fair play, sending Five Nine most
> of
> the time ( Uff, what a silly subject ), like singing well known song and
> broadcasting all contest to WW community with no idea how that can results
> with silly discussion like it is. Also I do not think that this reflector
> is
> established with goal to give right to anyone to blame whom like, telling
> easily words as cheating or so...
>
>
> Many ugly comments I red here and I am a bit disappointed about behavior
> of
> some friends I met on air many times. K9NW said how he removed QSO with me
> from log and it something I am spellbound about. Could not believe,
> really??
> But it's his right to do whatever he like. Also "adjectives" as cheating,
> DQ
> or similar are just speaking to me a lot about writers. Some of them are
> not
> contesters in soul, and never will bee, if they can spend hours and hours
> of
> listening and looking for stupidity, instead to enter contest seriously.
>
> Once again, be focused on right things. As someone said, if this is only
> problem, than contesting is going in perfect way. At the end, if CC will
> DQ
> myself , let them do it. It will not make my feeling any worse. I do not
> thing that I did anything what even deserve to be criticized. My feeling
> is
> just opposite.
>
> Over and see you in WPX CW. RST will be 100 WPM, but it will be. He.And
> broadcasting Live, also!
>
> 73
> Ranko - 4O3A
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