[CQ-Contest] ARRL and Open Logs - Time for the next step?

Richard DiDonna NN3W nn3w at cox.net
Fri Aug 1 11:23:46 EDT 2008


Umm...Sorry, but Skimmer has pretty much invalidated that.  Every single 
"secret" path, hidden skew opening, and long path route is now or will soon 
be fully open to exploitation and discovery because skimmer databases log 
and store everything.

You can do substantial offline research just using DXSummit logs.  Skimmer 
will only supplement.

In any event, I find it downright laughable that people are complaining 
about keeping logs private when making ANY QSO, by definition, requires the 
transmission of unencrypted radio signals over publicly available, publicly 
provided airwaves.

What happens when a SWL records your contacts?  Are you going to sue him for 
breach of copyright?

73 Rich NN3W

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <w4tv at subich.com>
To: "'Richard DiDonna NN3W'" <nn3w at cox.net>; "'CQ-Contest'" 
<CQ-Contest at contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 10:43 AM
Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] ARRL and Open Logs - Time for the next step?



> Oh, so since the the technology for QSO analysis, skimmer,
> and spot analysis is readily available, there are no secrets
> and the argument re: "I keep my log prviate so as to not alert
> the competition" is now void .  Hence, no
> reason to keep the logs private.
>
> You've proven our point for us.  Thanks OM!

Wrong again.  By keeping the logs private, there is no way for
the off-line analysis software to work as it has no input.



> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of
> Richard DiDonna NN3W
> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 6:52 AM
> To: CQ-Contest
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRL and Open Logs - Time for the next step?
>
>
> Oh, so since the the technology for QSO analysis, skimmer,
> and spot analysis
> is readily available, there are no secrets and the argument
> re: "I keep my
> log prviate so as to not alert the competition" is now void .
>  Hence, no
> reason to keep the logs private.
>
> You've proven our point for us.  Thanks OM!
>
> 73 Rich NN3W
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "K0HB " <k-zero-hb at earthlink.net>
> To: "K1AR John" <K1AR at aol.com>; "CQ-Contest"
> <CQ-Contest at contesting.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 10:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRL and Open Logs - Time for the next step?
>
>
> > Note to K1AR:
> >
> > See below.  I rest my case.
> >
> > 73, Hans, K0HB
> >
> >>
> >> I already have a software strategy tool which plots the
> QSO rate and
> >> Mult rate, per band and multi-band, for stations on the
> CQWW log site
> >> (and any other cabrillo file I import).   Mix that with
> the live feed
> >> from your existing contest software, and you add another
> dimension to
> >> the world of contesting - making live strategy decisions based on
> >> past performance.
> >>
> >
> >> 73, Gerry W1V
> >
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