[CQ-Contest] Res: Dollars/qso score

[Renner, PY7RP]

Hello Guys,

I agree with Ulli .
The final score is for sure a function of how much money you
spent on building your station.
For example: i operated  QRP this last cqww/cw
with 5 watts & ground plane i worked 53 dxccs & 23zones with a
total of 92 qsos. If i used a 3 elem triband for example, instead of the GP
my effective irradiated power would be greater and with a big probability i could
have made more qsos. the point is: increasing the effective irradiated power has nothing to do
with operator knowledge but instead of this: money spent.

73 Renner
PY7RP







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De: David Kopacz <david at ky1v.com>
Para: cq-contest at contesting.com
Cc: Ulli Grunow <ulli.grunow at ospreyribs.com>
Enviadas: Terça-feira, 2 de Dezembro de 2008 21:14:10
Assunto: Re: [CQ-Contest] Dollars/qso score

My interpretation of Ulli's post is that it would be nice for the smaller
pistols to be recognized once in a while for their efforts in a major
contest.

I agree with him. I read QST, CQ Magazine, NCJ, Radio-Sport.net and others.
While quite interesting, and often entertaining, it does get stale reading
about the same stations and operators every issue, year after year.

No offense to any of the top stations, owners or operators as they have all
contributed immensely to the hobby and deserve to be recognized when posting
a win in a major contest. But there could be more effort placed in
recognizing those that assist the big guns in making those huge scores.

I actually got excited reading an article last year that had two whole
paragraphs written about two stations in the Midwest competing for 5th place
in a major contest. I don't recall the details, but I do recall it was
refreshing to read about something different. I believe it was one of the
CQWW events and written by Bob, K3EST.

Perhaps as a group, we should consider sponsoring plaques for stations that
compete in challenged locations with challenged stations. This would create
incentive for greater participation and better recognition of those that
have little to no chance of winning a major category in a major contest.

I'll be the first to step up to the plate and donate four plaques for ARRL
DX CW/SSB and CQWW CW/SSB for a "challenged category" as selected by the
contest committees.


David ~ KY1V
UltraDX


-----Original Message-----
From: cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com
[mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Ulli Grunow
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 6:45 AM
To: cq-contest at contesting.com
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Dollars/qso score

Dear contesters,

Contest organizers.

This is just something I was thinking about when looking through the scores
of last CQWW CW 2008..



I am ON5KQ, (op Ulli) operating a very limited contest station here in
Belgium..

Have just published my claimed scores (SOSB 40m) at 3830 reflector.



Seeing all the great score of great people it came to my mind, that there
might be one factor for great contest results we never talk about.

I just want to name it here once: the factor of money spent to achieve the
result.



I am not at all saying, that it is the most important factor - but I have
never seen a below $3000 total cost station winning a contest !

You may say it is trivial - with more input there is more output - yes,
partly this is true and that's a way you can see it.



>From a sports standpoint of view, I personally feel as if I try to become
successful with an old Volkswagen in a Formule 1 race. should I buy a new
expensive car te get in pool position next time ?!

I certainly enjoy the many impressive websites of the major contest winner's
- great to see ! Great technology and thank you for documenting and share
your experience with dream equipment for almost everyone else.

Sometimes there are Single OP's operating a super station build in many many
years from Multi/Multi teams. Is that real Single Operator contesting ?!?

Also the Multi/Multi teams spend many thousands of dollars into the
hobby..their neighbor ham's might be never be able to do anything close to
that, simply due to their very limited of even tight budget.



So in what aspect we talk about winning the contest ? Biggest station,
richest people ? Biggest equipment ?!?



I am happy to find the Triband/wires only category in some contests.

How about a total below $3000 dollar category ?!

Single band entries half.



My station is below $1500 incl. TRX !

I am proud of my efficiency .. 

Want to hear/read about small stations with good results - stand up guy's !



Ulli, ON5KQ

www.on5kq.be



P.S.: I am not against spending lots of money into our great hobby - just
wanted to tell a different story.

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