[CQ-Contest] what PX can I use?

Joe Subich, W4TV w4tv at subich.com
Wed Feb 6 12:28:38 EST 2008


> What do we debate next? :)

Well, I would argue that the link on the web represents a staff 
interpretation and not "the law" as written in 97.119(g) since 
neither 97.119(g) nor any other section of Part 97 provides a 
specific list of required identifiers.  As such, one could use 
VO1HE/NV4 and argue that it is perfectly "legal" because there 
are 31 active licenses with the NV4 prefix (30 of the licenses 
have mailing addresses in the fourth call area). 

73, 

   ... Joe, W4TV 
 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com 
> [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Paul 
> J. Piercey
> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 7:31 AM
> To: 'Robert Naumann'; vo1he at rac.ca; kr2q at optonline.net; 
> cq-contest at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] what PX can I use?
> 
> 
> Yep, I got that a few postings ago. Pretty well sums it all up.
> 
> What do we debate next? :)
> 
> 
> 73 -- Paul VO1HE  
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Robert Naumann [mailto:w5ov at w5ov.com] 
> > Sent: February 6, 2008 12:23
> > To: vo1he at rac.ca; kr2q at optonline.net; cq-contest at contesting.com
> > Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] what PX can I use?
> > 
> > Paul,
> > 
> > Regardless of your opinion, or what might seem reasonable or 
> > logical, the FCC rules concerning "Reciprocal Operating 
> > Arrangements" state otherwise.
> > 
> > From the FCC rules on the web: 
> > 
> > http://wireless.fcc.gov/services/index.htm?job=about_4&id=amat
> > eur#Station%20Indicators
> > 
> > <Block Quote>
> > When a station is transmitting under the privileges afforded 
> > by an amateur service license granted by the Government of 
> > Canada or an amateur service license granted by any other 
> > country with which the United States has a multilateral or 
> > bilateral agreement, an indicator consisting of the 
> > appropriate letter-numeral designating the station location 
> > must be included in the station identification announcement. 
> > See 47 C.F.R. § 97.119 
> > 
> > This indicator must be separated from the assigned call sign 
> > by the slant mark (/) or any suitable word that denotes the 
> > slant mark. When the station is transmitting under the 
> > authority of an amateur service license granted by the 
> > Government of Canada, the indicator must be included after 
> > the call sign (example: "VE3XX/W4"). 
> > 
> > When the station is transmitting under the authority of an 
> > amateur service license granted by any other country with 
> > which the United States has a multilateral or bilateral 
> > agreement, the indicator must be included before the call 
> > sign (example: "W4/IB4DX). At least once during each 
> > intercommunication ("QSO"), the identification announcement 
> > must also include the general geographical location as nearly 
> > as possible by city and state, commonwealth or possession 
> > (example: "W3/IB4DX Kent Island, Maryland " or "VE3XX/W4 
> > Wallops Island, Virginia"). 
> > 
> > The station location letter-numeral indicators are: Alabama 
> > W4; Alaska KL7; American Samoa KH8; Arizona W7; Arkansas W5; 
> > Baker Island KH1; California W6; Colorado W? Commonwealth of 
> > Northern Mariana Islands KH? Commonwealth of Puerto Rico KP4; 
> > Connecticut W1; Delaware W3; Desecheo Island, PR KP5; 
> > District of Columbia W3; Florida W4; Georgia W4; Guam KH2; 
> > Hawaii KH6; Howland Island KH1; Idaho W7; Illinois W9; 
> > Indiana W9; Iowa W? Jarvis Island KH5; Johnston Island KH3; 
> > Kansas W? Kentucky W4; Kingman Reef KH5K; Kure Island, HI 
> > KH7; Louisiana W5; Maine W1; Maryland W3; Massachusetts W1; 
> > Michigan W8; Midway Island KH4; Minnesota W? Mississippi W5; 
> > Missouri W? Montana W7; Navassa Island KP1; Nebraska W? 
> > Nevada W7; New Hampshire W1; New Jersey W2; New Mexico W5; 
> > New York W2; North Carolina W4; North Dakota W? Ohio W8; 
> > Oklahoma W5; Oregon W7; Palmyra Island KH5; Peale Island KH9; 
> > Pennsylvania W3; Rhode Island W1; South Carolina W4; South 
> > Dakota W? Tennessee W4; Texas W5; Utah W7; Vermont W1; Virgin 
> > Islands KP2; Virginia W4; Wake Island KH9; Washington W7; 
> > West Virginia W8; Wilkes Island KH9; Wisconsin W9; Wyoming 
> > W7. <End Block Quote>
> > 
> > So, according to the FCC rules, you must use VO1HE/W4 if you 
> > are somewhere in the U.S. 4th call area. Please note that it 
> > is specifically indicated that the indicator must be after 
> > the Canadian callsign.
> > 
> > 73,
> > 
> > Bob W5OV
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Paul J. Piercey [mailto:p.piercey at nl.rogers.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 9:44 PM
> > To: kr2q at optonline.net; cq-contest at contesting.com
> > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] what PX can I use?
> > 
> > /100 is not considered a prefix just as /P or /QRP is not a 
> > part of your callsign. That's why the FCC allows it. It 
> > doesn't really mean anything. But
> > NV4 is a valid prefix in the US 4th district, as referenced 
> > below so appending it to a out-of-district callsign, under 
> > WPX rules, should, and does, count as far as I'm concerned.
> > 
> > 
> > 73 -- Paul VO1HE  
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com 
> > > [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of 
> > > kr2q at optonline.net
> > > Sent: February 5, 2008 22:11
> > > To: cq-contest at contesting.com
> > > Subject: [CQ-Contest] what PX can I use?
> > > 
> > > Seems to me that this is answered in the rules.  Note the LAST 
> > > sentence below.
> > > 
> > > If I cannot sign KR2Q/100 (which the FCC allows but 
> > apparently the WPX 
> > > rules do not), it would seem to be obvious
> > > (logical?) that you cannot sign "/NV4" either.
> > > 
> > > Personally, I think WPX has more than enough PX's to go 
> around and 
> > > seems like nearly every other QSO (or maybe even 8 out of 
> > 10) are PX 
> > > mults anyway.  It sure would be fun to let everybody pick 
> > their px.  
> > > Many guys use a "funny" px call anyway, and not their own call.
> > > 
> > > de Doug KR2Q
> > > 
> > > (a) A PREFIX is the letter/numeral combination which forms 
> > the first 
> > > part of the amateur call.
> > > Examples: N8, W8, WD8, HG1, HG19, KC2, OE2, OE25, etc. Any 
> > difference 
> > > in the numbering, lettering, or order of same shall constitute a 
> > > separate prefix. A station operating from a DXCC country 
> different 
> > > from that indicated by its callsign is required to sign 
> > portable. The 
> > > portable prefix must be an authorized prefix of the 
> > country/call area 
> > > of operation. In cases of portable operation, the portable 
> > designator 
> > > will then become the prefix. Example: N8BJQ operating from 
> > Wake Island 
> > > would sign N8BJQ/KH9 or N8BJQ/NH9. KH6XXX operating from 
> > Ohio must use 
> > > an authorized prefix for the U.S. 8th district (W8, K8, etc.). 
> > > Portable designators without numbers will be assigned a 
> > zero (Ø) after 
> > > the second letter of the portable designator to form the prefix.
> > > Example: PA/N8BJQ would become PAØ. All calls without 
> > numbers will be 
> > > assigned a zero (Ø) after the first two letters to form 
> the prefix. 
> > > Example: XEFTJW would count as XEØ. Maritime mobile, 
> > mobile, /A, /E, 
> > > /J, /P, or interim license class identifiers do not count 
> > as prefixes. 
> > > You may not make up your own prefix.
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