[CQ-Contest] what PX can I use?

[Don Cassel]

Just to clarify one thing. I would NOT be making up a prefix if I had used
NV4 and neither is anyone who applies for a vanity call. NV4 is a valid
prefix in use in the 4 area. It is unusual but not manufactured. 

In any event I will be using /W4 as it is not in question. NV4 would
certainly be a lot more interesting for me and all who work me. But I'm only
in this contest for fun so it's not a big deal.

73, Don VE3XD/W5

-----Original Message-----
From: cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com
[mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Sandy Taylor
Sent: February-07-08 12:28 AM
To: 'Joe Subich, W4TV'; 'David Gilbert'; cq-contest at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] what PX can I use?

What was it Clinton said?

"That depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is."

Here's the deal: if the FCC's interpretation of its own rules cannot be
relied upon, whose can?

Also, it is clear in reading the WPX rules, CQ's desire to maintain the
integrity of WPX multipliers, for both the contest and for the award
programme.

"You may not make up your own prefix." Seems to clearly say that CQ does not
want stations to manufacture prefixes for the purpose of gaining undue
popularity. Don has clearly said such is his intent, that NV4 would be
sexier than W4. No doubt it would.

Paul had commented on my "I'll operate from my cottage and sign VE4XT/XM4"
as being invalid because XM4 is not designated for amateur service. Well,
technically, neither is NV4. It is only issued under a vanity call program
as a 2x1 call and is not, yet at least, part of the normal sequential system
of assigning callsigns to those who don't apply specifically for a vanity
call. (I looked, if you don't apply under the vanity call program, the FCC
will merely issue you the next available alphanumeric callsign in sequence
of normally issued callsigns N4xxx, K4xxx, etc.) You would not, at least
until the population of W4 expands quadratically, be normally issued NV4xxx.


73, Kelly
Ve4xt



-----Original Message-----
From: cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com
[mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Joe Subich, W4TV
Sent: February-06-08 4:44 PM
To: 'David Gilbert'; cq-contest at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] what PX can I use?


> I don't think that is a valid assumption, Joe.

Well, to further the debate (I am not a lawyer), when a regulatory agency
makes "law," those rules are included in the applicable part of the "Code of
Federal Regulations."  If the particular rule is not published in CFR, it is
not "law" but is, by definition a staff interpretation.  In general, if what
one is doing complies broadly with the rules as published in CFR, (e.g.,
using NV4 instead of W4) and does not specifically violate the rules as
written, there is no violation of the rule.  

If staff and the Commission believe there is substantial good reason to
require the specific use of "W4" and prohibit the use of any alternate form,
they can always issue a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking and add the specific
language to the rules. 

73, 

   ... Joe, W4TV 
 


> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com 
> [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of David Gilbert
> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 2:41 PM
> To: cq-contest at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] what PX can I use?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I don't think that is a valid assumption, Joe.
> 
> 97.119(g) states:
> 
> "When the station is transmitting under the authority of Sec. 
> 97.107 of
> this part, an indicator consisting of the appropriate letter-numeral 
> designating the station location must be included before the call sign 
> that was issued to the station by the country granting the license. 
> For an amateur service license granted by the Government of Canada, 
> however, the indicator must be included after the call sign."
> 
> 97.107 (c) states:
> 
> "At any time the FCC may, in its discretion, modify, suspend or cancel 
> the reciprocal operating authority granted to any person by this 
> section."
> 
> The link previously posted here giving specific prefixes for use 
> within the U.S. under reciprocal licensing authority 
> (http://wireless.fcc.gov/services/index.htm?job=about_4&id=ama
teur#Station%20Indicators)
is on the official FCC website.  You even get a warning notice that you are
leaving the official Wireless and Telecommunications Bureau site when you
click on a different link.  So how does that become merely a non-binding
staff interpretation?  It's a declaration of an FCC requirement, the
authority for which they have reserved for themselves under 97.107(c).

Dave   AB7E

.

Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
> Well, I would argue that the link on the web represents a staff 
> interpretation and not "the law" as written in 97.119(g) since neither

> 97.119(g) nor any other section of Part 97 provides a specific list of

> required identifiers. As such, one could use VO1HE/NV4 and argue that 
> it is perfectly "legal" because there are 31 active licenses with the
> NV4 prefix (30 of the licenses have mailing addresses in the fourth 
> call area).
> 73,
>
>    ... Joe, W4TV
>  
>
>
>   
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