[CQ-Contest] FW: Getscores.org Changes/Improvements...

Fri Jan 18 14:27:24 EST 2008

The site supports the display of breakdowns.   It is not the SITE
responsibility to filter data.

I would suggest a switch in the client software to only post total score and
total mults, if the operator only wishes to post those items.  In that case,
all zeros could be posted.   It is not really a technical challenge.   The
poster has full control (limited by the design of the logging software) as
to what to post.

You are wrong about Randy -- He did post his score with no breakdowns.
Plus, I've added the simple view -- which you can use at your own option --
which only shows score and mults.

That all said, it is a simple fact that if you are Getscores.org as a form
of propagation monitoring, you are simply doing something wrong (in a
tactical sense, not a moral one).   We had radios to monitor propagation
(for the single op) as well as packet spots, etc for the multi-op.
Getscores is a motivational and informational tool, not a propagation
monitor.   If you use it as such, you will NOT do any better in the results.

To answer Andrew's question:   See the FAQ on getscores.org: you will not be
reclassified if you post your score.

Thanks again to all of those supporting the site and getting enjoyment out
of this new faucet of contesting!

73, Gerry W1VE

On Jan 18, 2008 1:27 PM, Richard DiDonna NN3W <nn3w at cox.net> wrote:

> I refuse to, and can tell that K5ZD basically refuses to as he posted only
> raw score during the CQWW SSB last year.
>
> Do we count?
>
> 73 Rich NN3W
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Robbins K1TTT" <k1ttt at arrl.net>
> To: <CQ-Contest at Contesting.COM>
> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 1:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] FW: Getscores.org <http://getscores.org/>Changes/Improvements...
>
>
> > Pete, name the top competitor who has stated that they won't post their
> > score if it contains a band breakdown.  I know it has been discussed,
> but
> > has any top scoring station specifically refused to post their score
> because
> > it contains a breakdown.
> >
> >
> > David Robbins K1TTT
> > e-mail: mailto:k1ttt at arrl.net
> > web: http://www.k1ttt.net
> > AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com [mailto:cq-contest-
> >> bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Pete Smith
> >> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 15:44
> >> To: CQ-Contest at Contesting.COM
>  >> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] FW: Getscores.org <http://getscores.org/>Changes/Improvements...
> >>
> >> Dave and I have pretty much agreed to disagree about this, but I think
> >> that
> >> one disincentive to top ops using the scoreboard is that there is, at
> >> present, no option to withhold band-by-band QSO and Mult numbers.  Some
> >> people apparently are using a logging program that sends zeros for
> these
> >> numbers, either as an option or as the default, and some of the top
> >> scorers
> >> who *are* using the scoreboard appear to use this logging software.
>  Other
> >> software (notably N1MM Logger) sends all the band by-band numbers.
> >>
> >> Why does this matter?  I submit that many top contesters are highly
> >> competitive and take the prospect of giving away their strategy very
> >> seriously.  Dave argues that if you're paying *that* close attention to
> >> your competition's scoreboard numbers you're gonna lose anyhow.  That
> may
> >> be, but the counter argument would be "why take the chance?"
> >>
> >> 73, Pete N4ZR
> >>
> >> At 07:30 PM 1/17/2008, David Robbins K1TTT wrote:
> >> >Sorry if this is a dupe, but I didn't see it come through on
> cq-contest.
> >> >Gerry has done some more work on getscores.org as detailed below.
>  Right
> >> now
> >> >it is running as if both naqp ssb and jan vhf are in progress if you
> want
> >> to
> >> >test.  Sometime either tomorrow night or Saturday morning after we are
> >> done
> >> >testing it will switch back to the proper start times to clear out the
> >> >testing scores.
> >> >
> >> >Personally I would sure like to see more of the big m/m and other top
> >> >scorers get into this.  Even if you don't want to watch for yourself,
> its
> >> >interesting for those of us who do to have a big target to shoot for!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >David Robbins K1TTT
> >> >e-mail: mailto:k1ttt at arrl.net
> >> >web: http://www.k1ttt.net
> >> >AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >From: yccc-bounces at contesting.com [mailto:yccc-bounces at contesting.com]
> On
> >> >Behalf Of Gerry Hull
> >> >Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 05:36
> >> >To: CQ-Contest Reflector; YCCC
> >> >Subject: [YCCC] Getscores.org <http://getscores.org/>Changes/Improvements...
> >> >
> >> >Thanks to a lot of feedback from the community, I've implemented a few
> >> >changes to increase functionality:
> >> >
> >> >The scoreboard will now track more than one contest at a time.   This
> is
> >> >important for weekends like the upcoming one,
> >> >where we have two popular contests -- NAQP and ARRL VHF.    Now,
> choose
> >> your
> >> >contest and go ahead and post.
> >> >
> >> >The "testing" page has been modified to show all fields, including the
> >> >contest name.  It will be pre-pended with [TEST] if you post outside
> the
> >> >valid contest hours (UTC) for a specific contest.   If you want to
> test
> >> that
> >> >your scoring to the site properly, just fire up your logger, post a
> >> score,
> >> >and take a look at http://www.getscores.org/testing.aspx.
> >> >
> >> >There are some challenges left -- VHF multiplier breakdowns are still
> an
> >> >issue (you'll see a dash right now);  and, though it is a great
> contest,
> >> the
> >> >Stew Perry is a challenge for both this site and loggers, as far as
> >> >reporting goes.
> >> >
> >> >Activity continues to increase...   What a blast to watch the big guns
> >> and
> >> >little pistols compete!
> >> >
> >> >I look forward to your feedback and seeing you on the air -- and on
> >> >getscores!
> >> >
> >> >A big THANKS to Dave, K1TTT, who has been a constant supporter and
> >> champion
> >> >for this site!
> >> >
> >> >73,
> >> >
> >> >Gerry, W1VE/6Y6C
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