[CQ-Contest] SO2R

[Joe Subich, W4TV]

> NO THEY DON'T!!!! While they are in the ACT of doing the 
> VAULT, they only can use a SINGLE POLE. 

Just like SO2R ... while in the act of making a QSO the 
operator is only using a SINGLE TRANSMITTER!  Like a Pole 
Vaulter may use different poles for different conditions 
the SO2R operator may use a different radio for different 
conditions. 

>  Unlock those half-brains.   

It's time to accept the fact that single radio or two radios, 
single operators are single operators and it's time for the 
discrimination and attempts at segregation to stop. 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul E. Dorey [mailto:wn6k at wn6k.cts.com] 
> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 7:19 PM
> To: 'Joe Subich, W4TV'; cq-contest at contesting.com
> Cc: 'Tom Haavisto'; 'Lee Buller'; k-zero-hb at earthlink.net; 
> 'Dennis Vernacchia'
> Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] SO2R
> 
> 
> NO THEY DON'T!!!! While they are in the ACT of doing the 
> VAULT, they only
> can use a SINGLE POLE.  Unlock those half-brains.
> 
> WN6K
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe Subich, W4TV [mailto:w4tv at subich.com] 
> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 16:05
> To: cq-contest at contesting.com
> Cc: 'Tom Haavisto'; 'Lee Buller'; 'Paul E. Dorey'; 
> k-zero-hb at earthlink.net;
> 'Dennis Vernacchia'
> Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] SO2R
> 
> 
> > Aha...but most Pole Vaulters are VO1P (Vaults ONLY w/ 1 
> > Pole).  Your analogy doesn't quite fit... we all use 
> > different types of poles (radios) just that some of us 
> > use only ONE.
> 
> Not true at all ... go to a professional (or Olympic class) 
> track and field meet.  You will find that most pole vaulters 
> have between 10 and 15 poles of different lengths and stiffness. 
> They may use a different pole for each jump depending on wind, 
> temperature, height of the bar, etc. 
> 
> 73, 
> 
>    ... Joe, W4TV 
>  
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com 
> > [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of 
> Paul E. Dorey
> > Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 6:20 PM
> > To: 'Joe Subich, W4TV'; k-zero-hb at earthlink.net; 'Dennis 
> > Vernacchia'; 'Lee Buller'
> > Cc: 'Tom Haavisto'; cq-contest at contesting.com
> > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] SO2R
> > 
> > 
> > Aha...but most Pole Vaulters are VO1P (Vaults ONLY w/ 1 
> > Pole).  Your analogy
> > doesn't quite fit... we all use different types of poles 
> > (radios) just that
> > some of us use only ONE.
> > 
> > Now I don't care if you guys do SOGazillianR.... it just 
> > should not be the
> > same class as someone operating with one radio...go to your 
> > own class and
> > then complain because you can't beat a mega station or something.
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Joe Subich, W4TV [mailto:w4tv at subich.com] 
> > Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 18:41
> > To: k-zero-hb at earthlink.net; 'Paul E. Dorey'; 'Dennis 
> > Vernacchia'; 'Lee
> > Buller'
> > Cc: 'Tom Haavisto'; cq-contest at contesting.com
> > Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] SO2R
> > 
> > 
> > Since when did you join Dianna Moon Gompers' staff?  
> > 
> > While calling SO1R the lazy man's contesting may be hyperbolic,  
> > the constant attack on those who can and do use SO2R techniques 
> > are nothing more than mantra of the Handicapper General.  
> > 
> > K5TR put it better than I did ... there are a series of things that 
> > any competitor can do, including antennas, training and practice.  
> > However, when you have done all that adding a second radio can add 
> > incrementally to the final score.  Think of the selection and use 
> > of SO2R in the way a pole-vaulter selects a pole ... too short a 
> > pole will limit the vaulter's maximum height but a pole too long 
> > for the vaulter's ability (training/practice) will be difficult 
> > to control and prevent the vaulter from reaching his/her full  
> > potential.  
> > 
> > With the second radio, a properly trained (practiced) operator 
> > can search for incremental multipliers or spot short 
> term/unexpected 
> > band openings, etc.  However, if the operator does not use the 
> > second radio properly - or expects it to be a "magic bullet" that 
> > can be used without practice, the second radio becomes a 
> distraction 
> > just like a pole vaulter with a too tall pole.   
> > 
> > Still, if a serious competitor is not using SO2R or attempting to 
> > develop the skill to use SO2R, he is limiting his potential just 
> > as surely as if he cannot or will not us an antenna other than a 
> > multiband vertical or if a pole vaulter competes with a 
> pole shorter 
> > than that of his competitors or if a boxer does not do his 
> > "road work" 
> > on a consistent basis.  All of those are "lazy" behaviors 
> in failing 
> > to do the work necessary to achieve the maximum results. 
> > 
> > Rather than limit just one aspect of the competition, provide an 
> > entry or basic entry class with no advantages ... limit competitors 
> > to one transceiver, no packet, no amplifier and antennas no higher 
> > than 50 feet (or 30 feet) and antennas limited to no more than .5 
> > wavelength of total conductor.  Such a category would provide an 
> > opportunity for those in antenna restricted areas and those who do 
> > not want to (or cannot) enter the "arms race" of ever 
> bigger antennas,
> > amplifiers and multiple radios. 
> > 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: K-ZERO-HB [mailto:k-zero-hb at earthlink.net] 
> > > Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 6:01 PM
> > > To: W4TV Joe Subich; Paul E. Dorey; Dennis Vernacchia; Lee Buller
> > > Cc: Tom Haavisto; cq-contest at contesting.com
> > > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] SO2R
> > > 
> > > 
> > > What a sanctimonious jerk.
> > > 
> > > 72.5, de Hans, K0HB/W7
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > [Original Message]
> > > > From: Joe Subich, W4TV <w4tv at subich.com>
> > > >
> > > > SO1R is the lazy person's contesting ... it is contesting with 
> > > > one hand tied behind one's back, listening with one ear and 
> > > > entering with half a mind. 
> > > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
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