[CQ-Contest] ARRL and Open Logs - Time for the next step?

[Richard DiDonna NN3W]

I think you misread my post.  I support the disclosure of logs.  And am pleased the CQWW committee has resisted the undertoned efforts of the ARRL to squelch the opening of logs through the auspices of the DXCC program.

73 Rich NN3W

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Gerry Hull 
To: Richard DiDonna NN3W 
Cc: CQ-Contest 
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRL and Open Logs - Time for the next step?


Richard, Hans, etc....

First of all, you do not keep your log private.  If you kept it private, you would not submit it to the contest committee, you'd simply keep it to yourself, and claim victory among your friends.   ARRL and CQ, or any other contest committee, has the right to determine if a log is to be public or private.

As has been stated on this reflector, and is clear from the rules, once ARRL or CQ has the log, it becomes property of the respective organization, and they can do with it as they wish.  From the ARRL prospective, I'm sure the CAC will make a future decision about publishing based on rational input.

In the contest world of 2008, these arguments are academic -- CQ has published the CQWW logs for the past couple of years, and I'm sure, will continue to do so.   It has just been just pointed out on this reflector that publishing the logs has helped the committee in resolving some pesky issues.  So, there are MANY good reasons for publishing the logs.

I just don't buy the "this is the way it's always been done" argument.   In my opinion, there are more benefits the contest community at large from open logs than from protecting an individuals rights to the log information.   Of course, you guys are free to offer a dissenting opinion.

I presume all this fuss and reflector traffic is de to lack of propagation on the radio, so we all have a lot of time to blather on email.

73, Gerry W1VE

On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 6:52 AM, Richard DiDonna NN3W <nn3w at cox.net> wrote:

Oh, so since the the technology for QSO analysis, skimmer, and spot analysis
is readily available, there are no secrets and the argument re: "I keep my
log prviate so as to not alert the competition" is now void .  Hence, no
reason to keep the logs private.

You've proven our point for us.  Thanks OM!

73 Rich NN3W


----- Original Message -----
From: "K0HB " <k-zero-hb at earthlink.net>

To: "K1AR John" <K1AR at aol.com>; "CQ-Contest" <CQ-Contest at contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 10:57 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRL and Open Logs - Time for the next step?



> Note to K1AR:
>
> See below.  I rest my case.
>
> 73, Hans, K0HB
>
>>
>> I already have a software strategy tool which plots the QSO rate and
>> Mult rate, per band and multi-band, for stations on the CQWW log site
>> (and any other cabrillo file I import).   Mix that with the live feed
>> from your existing contest software, and you add another dimension to
>> the world of contesting - making live strategy decisions based on past
>> performance.
>>
>
>> 73, Gerry W1V
>
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