[CQ-Contest] Use of di-di-dah-dah-di-dit in CW Contest

Robert Chudek - K0RC k0rc at pclink.com
Thu Jun 5 11:18:56 EDT 2008

That's another good contesting nuance you brought up Mike.

If I am running and I get a "?" after my CQ, I immediately press the F4 key 
(my call). That is, if no one else is calling me. Why would you make the S&P 
station wait around for your CQ timer to trip off another round in 10 
seconds or so. You've got a "customer" waiting right now.

If I don't get an immediate reply from the "?" station after my F4, the 
other fellow has determined I am already in his log and has moved on. 
There's nothing I need to do but press the F1 again to start another CQ 

On the other hand, if I'm in S&P mode and tune to a station as he is 
finishing "test", if I don't hear anyone calling him, I'll drop a "?" on 
freq. If he comes back with a "?", I figure he is not interested in rate so 
I just tune on down the band. His loss.

If there's a "?" sent and an immediate F4 returned, that's time saved on 
both ends. And time saved equals a higher rate.

I don't understand what there is to get frustrated about. What has I missed?

73 de Bob - KØRC in MN

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike DeChristopher, K1KAA" <k1kaa at arrl.net>
To: "CQ-Contest" <cq-contest at contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 9:09 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Use of di-di-dah-dah-di-dit in CW Contest

Some people get very frustrated when S&P'ers send a "?" after their CQ.
You'll get the callsign in a second or two; I don't think it will kill
the rate.  In fact, sending "?" and waiting for him to send his call may
take just as long.  Same with phone weekends: saying "YOUR CALL?"
usually makes the running op angry.  There's a situation for everything,

Or maybe "the other guy" only caught part of SQ5M's ..--.. and figured
he heard a call.  Either way, the problem would have been avoided if he
just listened to the next CQ.  RX first.


Mike DeChristopher, K1KAA
k1kaa at arrl.net
AR-Cluster node telnet://dx.413ma.org

Tim Goeppinger wrote:

> I was watching a video of SQ5M operating an Elecraft K3 during CQ WPX CW 
> tonight.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jl9mUBC-v-g
> He is doing a fine job of S&P up and down 80M.   At 1:12 in the video he 
> tunes across
> the tail end of a CQ (just TEST at the end)  Trying to be efficient, SQ5M 
> fires a
> ? (di-di-dah-dah-di-dit) at the guy who is running.  The other guy sends a 
> di-di-dah-dah-di-dit
> right back at him!    Why?
> I have seen this alot lately.  Is this rude, or just plain stupid?  Why 
> can't the runner just just send his call?
> Wouldn't it be more efficient to send your callsign once, than have the 
> S&Per send his?
> If I encounter this situation again when I am S&P, I really am tempted to 
> keep firing ?'s back , until they send their %*# callsign.
> (steps down from soapbox)
> 73,
> Tim K6GEP
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