[CQ-Contest] Public access to logs

[KI9A at aol.com]

I'm still confused with this one. 
 
I think a VAST majority of DXCC submissions come from a contest like the  
CQWW!! 
 
This publication of logs is one of the silliest threads yet. In this day of  
computers, and great color printers, I can manufacture about any QSL I want,  
short of the obvious really rare ones, and, even at that, I'd bet lunch that I 
 could slip 70-80% of phoney cards past ARRL field checkers.  Like I said  
before, on purpose, I printed off 4 EQSL cards, and asked 3 members of the local 
 DX club ( all honor roll guys), which 2 were DXCC filed checkers, if they 
saw  anything wrong with submitting these cards. They all looked, and said all 
the  info was there, and looked fine. Then I told them they were printed from 
EQSL.  At that point, they changed their minds. Now, if I were not with 
conscious, I  could have submitted those cards, and got credit for them.
 
DXCC is a sham anymore, it is meaningless now days.  
 
So, what is more of harm? Publishing a guys log, or, being able to fool  
honor roll DXCC'ers ( and field checkers), with bogus cards?  
 
Exactly what is the issue with seeing a published log? Online, or not,  if my 
call is not in that log, I don't get a card....And, if I were a  loser, I 
could still make up a card on my computer, with all of the info on it (  phoney 
of course), and submit it, and with a 99% chance, I'd get  credit.
 
I have well over 300 DXCC worked, and 4 band DXCC so far with low dipoles.  I 
have a paper that says I have 125 confirmed, and, that is stuck in the 
drawer,  maybe some day I can line a birdcage with it, but, I have satisfaction of  
knowing I am a member of the 300+ DXCC ham community. 
 
73-Chuck KI9A 
 
 
In a message dated 3/2/2008 12:24:40 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
w4tv at subich.com writes:


>  Not sure I get this comment: Just what, exactly, is CQ trying 
> to "get  away with"?

To violate the rules of DXCC.  

> CQ does  not answer to the ARRL. And I can think of no law or 
> regulation, that  CQ is obliged to obey, forbidding the 
> publication of  logs.

CQWW is a DX contest ... the first, and preeminent DX awards  
program is DXCC.  It certainly looks like CQ does not care 
about  anything beyond their little "world" at best or are 
intentionally trying  to damage DXCC at the worst. 




> -----Original  Message-----
> From: Sandy Taylor [mailto:ve4xt at mts.net] 
> Sent:  Sunday, March 02, 2008 12:31 AM
> To: 'Joe Subich, W4TV'; KI9A at aol.com;  cq-contest at contesting.com
> Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] Public access to  logs
> 
> 
> That's exactly why all of my eQSL cards  explicitly state "not 
> valid for any award."  It takes a little  common sense rather 
> that trying to "get away with something" like CQ  is doing.  
> 
> Not sure I get this comment: Just what,  exactly, is CQ trying 
> to "get away
> with"?
> 
> CQ  does not answer to the ARRL. And I can think of no law or 
>  regulation,
> that CQ is obliged to obey, forbidding the publication of  logs.
> 
> 73, Kelly
> Ve4xt
> 
>  






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