[CQ-Contest] Public access to logs

[Robert Naumann]

The rule we're discussing is under SECTION III. ACCREDITATION CRITERIA. 

A couple of quotes from this section make what Wayne said more clear:

Under point 1: "It is the purpose of this section to establish guidelines
that will assure that DXCC credit is given only for contacts with operations
that are conducted with proper licensing and have established a legitimate
physical presence within the Entity to be credited."

Point 2: "The following points should be of particular interest to those
seeking accreditation for a DX operation: "

Point 2e: "e) It is expected that all DXpeditions will observe any
environmental rules promulgated by the administration under whose authority
the operation takes place. In the event that no such rules are actually
promulgated, the DXpedition should leave the DXpedition site as they found
it."

Point 3: " For those cases where supporting documentation is required, the
following can be used as a guide to identify those documents necessary for
accreditation. "

Point 4: "These accreditation requirements are intended to preserve the
integrity of the DXCC program and to ensure that the program does not
encourage amateurs to "bend the rules" in their enthusiasm, possibly
jeopardizing the future development of Amateur Radio. Every effort will be
made to apply these criteria uniformly and to make a determination
consistent with these objectives. "

And finally, the point at issue - 5:
"The presentation in any public forum of logs or other representations of
station operation showing details of station activity or other information
from which all essential QSO elements (time, date, band, mode and callsign)
for individual contacts can be derived creates a question as to the
integrity of the claimed QSOs with that station during the period
encompassed by the log. Presentation of such information in any public forum
by the station operator, operators or associated parties is not allowed and
may be considered sufficient reason to deny ARRL award credit for contacts
with any station for which such presentations have been made. Persistent
violation of this provision may result in disqualification from the DXCC
program."

Since the theme of this section of the rules is accreditation of DXpeditions
- not any and all logs as it is now being applied in this discussion - it
seems that Wayne's comment is consistent with the theme of accreditation **
for DXpeditions only **. 

Applying accreditation criteria to non-DXpeditions is a bit of a stretch,
and does not follow the interpretation information given by the DXCC manager
when the rule was made.

Again, I think they should do away with the rule completely, and instead
require that all logs be made public to remove the opportunity for any sort
of funny business after the fact. If a call is not in the log, it is not in
the log - period. 

73,

Bob W5OV
DXCC 329 mixed


-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Harrison [mailto:k0xp at dandy.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 11:17 PM
To: Robert Naumann; 'Joe Subich, W4TV'; wn3vaw at verizon.net; 'CQ Contest
Reflector'
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Public access to logs

At 10:13 PM 3/4/2008 -0600, Robert Naumann wrote:
>Way back when this silly rule was added, I asked the then DXCC manager if
>this precluded contest logs being public.
>
>This is his reply:
>
>"Regarding contest logs, we really aren't terribly concerned about non
>DXpedition situations.
>
>73,  Wayne, N7NG/1 "
>
>While Wayne is no longer there, I would presume that the intent has not
>changed.

Still, that's not written in stone; the DXCC rule, on the other hand, IS.

Steve, K0XP