[CQ-Contest] arrl dx ssb spotting report

somata90924 at mypacks.net somata90924 at mypacks.net
Fri Mar 7 20:58:58 EST 2008


I think all this spotting stuff with fake calls and such are a representative of the degeneration of society that has spread to ham radio, it is very, very, VERY sad.  Come on guys, lets go with the original intent of the hobby.

ZF2AH

-----Original Message-----
>From: i4ufh <i4ufh at libero.it>
>Sent: Mar 7, 2008 3:52 AM
>To: cq-contest at contesting.com
>Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] arrl dx ssb spotting report
>
>Based on the David report all these spots have as IP source address the 
>Static IP  address of our ADSL connection at IR4T.
>
>First of all thank's to David for these reports, they can help everyone to 
>understand how the operators are aware from the networks issues, and how 
>these networks are easy to hack.
>
>We are pretty sure that these spot was not generated from our IP address 
>that we hold, we were only 2 PC connected on the network, and well Linux 
>firewalled,  this is sure a good success of a hacking technique called IP 
>address spoofing. For more details probable David could be more detailed 
>than me, plase take a look at 
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_address_spoofing for basic informations
>
>Analizing these Spot 9 call are not valid (WA2BKL, W3GML, KA2CBW, W4FZA, 
>K4ZFP, N1DXV, KD4FKO, K0HHJ, WA3FG )
>Other calls are still on FCC database.
>
>The 1x2 West Coast call (W6HJ, W7HL, W7NJ, W6RA, W6IL ) are fool call too 
>easy to type on the keyboard in random way, and 2 of them ( W6RA, W6IL ) 
>claim to be in CA but the are resident (www.qrz.com ) in Oregon and Georgia, 
>and really belive me they was so incredible with such band condition ...
>
>The comment "poor" in the W6HJ, K2RA spot is clearly a no USA slang origin.
>
>Related to AA1N, K0TV, K0HA I had personally worked them  and viewed the 
>spot few seconds after the QSO, with TNX comment. I don't really know if 
>these spots were sended from the respective stations or not, but really 
>believe me I will not surely send a spot to confirm a myself QSO  !! If they 
>are reading this post , hope they remember it  !!!  A direct email will be 
>sended to ask them if remember such spot sending...
>
>These brief comment is only take with care about these analyses, because IP 
>spoofing, IP routing, or IP masking can be easy used from smart bad guys, 
>that from my opinion could spend better their time enjoy radio and 
>contesting instead of loosing time and  smiling above a possible flame 
>around these issues
>
>Personally next time i wll filter all spots with @ that denote a WEB Spot, 
>and as suggest i vote for a banning of the WEB spot feature to avoid these 
>false
>accusations, and this bad pratice of anonymous spots.
>
>
>Best 73 de I4UFH
>
>
>> On Tue, Mar 04, 2008 at 09:24:20PM -0800, Rich Hallman - N7TR wrote:
>>> This is interesting....
>>>
>>> N7TR 21285 CX9DX 190.132.129.239
>>>
>>> I actually made this spot from my cluster (dxc.n7tr.com) ...But is
>>> showing up here as originating from another IP.  Relay?
>>
>> I can't tell about this particular spot, but such things commonly
>> happen. The whole cluster network is not to be trusted.
>>
>> As an example, I noticed that DX spots made via the IRC interface of
>> OH2AQ show up with a _random_ IP address of a _previous_ spotter on
>> the "Originating Spots" website. This could easily lead to false
>> accusations, and (although most selfspotters don't seem to care to
>> hide their identitiy anyway) is a great way to send spots anonymously.
>>
>> It's quite a mystery to me why OH2AQ doesn't employ some simple
>> means to do something against the constant abuse of the DX cluster
>> network through their web/irc interfaces.
>>
>> 73,
>> -- 
>> Fabian Kurz, DJ1YFK * Dresden, Germany * http://fkurz.net/
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