[CQ-Contest] Get out of jail free card

[Joe Subich, W4TV]

Well, recording the contest, open logs, complete frequencies 
in the log, clocks linked to NBS, required posting on Live 
Scores ... it's all nonsense.  Next thing you know every 
contester will be required to hire a certified observer to 
act as a referee.  

It is all getting out of hand.  Unfortunately, contesters are 
becoming their own worst enemies with the elitism and "we 
know best" attitudes. 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com 
> [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Ron 
> Notarius W3WN
> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 5:34 PM
> To: cq-contest at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Get out of jail free card
> 
> 
> And once again, I strongly object to the notion that we be 
> required to record our operation on the chance that we might 
> be a top competitor.  Sorry Scott, but IMHO, this suggestion 
> creates as many or more problems than it appears to solve.
> 
> This used to be a joke.  We used to laugh at people who 
> seemed obsessed on doing this.  Now it's considered standard, 
> and more to the point, you want to impose it?  All in the 
> hopes that it MIGHT help the contest committee catch a few cheaters?
> 
> Sorry.  My first priority is investing in better antenna 
> systems.  Then I'll try to improve the operating station.  
> But spending a nickel before that on an otherwise useless 
> recording gadget that I don't want and otherwise don't need?  
> Forget it.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com 
> [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com]On Behalf Of Scott Robbins
> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 9:13 AM
> To: Jim George
> Cc: cq-contest at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Get out of jail free card
> 
> 
> ... that's impossible, though.  Some contest logging programs 
> do not output the exact frequency information to the log for 
> every contest.  Other entrants do not have rig control hooked 
> to the PC, and some rigs are old enough that they don't 
> interface to logging programs.
> 
> The RDXC suggests this, but it is not required:  "RDXC the 
> committee urgently asks participants to specify frequencies 
> (CAT System) on which QSOs were spent in log".  Key word is 
> "asks", not "requires".
> 
> I can't see what difference that would make, anyway.  I'm all 
> over the band, and changing bands, when making QSO's on the 
> second radio.
> 
> If we're going to require any of this, we are right back to 
> my original suggestion from a few weeks ago: require top 
> entrants, by request of the adjudicators if they feel it is 
> needed, to submit a complete recording of their contest 
> operation.  This would solve MANY issues, very easily.
> 
> Scott W4PA
> 
> --- Jim George <n3bb at mindspring.com> wrote:
> 
> > Good point. This is a key. It will be important for the contest 
> > sponsors
> to
> > require the frequency of the QSOs be part of the database 
> submitted in 
> > the Cabrillo files. That should make a "signature" clear. 
> The upcoming 
> > RDXC does just that.
> >
> > Jim George N3BB
> >
> > At 02:03 PM 3/10/2008 -0600, Joe, K8FC wrote:
> >
> >
> > >snip
> >
> >
> >
> > >  it seems to me that any log
> > >submitted by a station using the tactics you have outlined would
> obviously
> > >show like a sore thumb.  Let's say the station was bouncing around 
> > >using
> the
> > >skimmer output,  the log would show the various frequency 
> transitions 
> > >in
> a
> > >short period of time.  No way a non-assisted station would 
> be S&P up 
> > >and down the band and logging qso's one right after 
> another.  To me 
> > >it would
> be
> > >very obvious.  Effective S&P methods deem that you cover 
> the band in 
> > >a linear fashion as to not miss the possible mults.
> > >
> > >73's
> > >
> > >/joe k8fc
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
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