[CQ-Contest] VE4 and ND in one QSO?

Fri Nov 14 15:13:32 EST 2008

Yes, Joe had two antennas.   His property was in the US, but some of the
land was in Canada.   So, I guess if the antenna itself was in
Canada -- away ya go.

Being directly on the line?   That would not work for legal reasons...  You
can't be in two countries at once.

So, if KE0Z followed the WA2SPL model, operating in one country, then moving
to the other (even by switching antennas) it would be
A-OK...

For me -- it might be a different story, from a legal sense, as I'm licensed
in both countries.   I'd have to physically move across the border...
because while in the US, I could not operate as W1VE/VE4 (connected to the
Canadian antenna), because I would have to be
VE1RM/4.   However, if my person is in the US, I cannot use my Canadian call
-- I must use W1VE.

Silly conjecture, but interesting.   From a contest perspective, as long as
you have two calls worked (W1VE/0 and VE1RM/4, or WA2SPL/1 and WA2SPL/VE1,
all would be good from a logging perspective.

I would like to have an FCC or Industry Canada perspective on who is in
charge if the RF is generated in one country and is radiated
in another!

73, Gerry W1VE  VE1RM

On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 6:54 PM, Richard L. King <k5na at ecpi.com> wrote:

> About 20 years ago I regularly worked WA2SPL/1 in Vermont in the 160M
> contests. The second night of the contest he would always show up as
> WA2SPL/VE2 in Quebec.
>
> I was told he lived on a farm in Northern Vermont and he had one
> antenna in Vermont and another antenna in Quebec.
>
> There was never a problem with logging and reporting both QSOs.
>
> 73, Richard - K5NA
>
>
>
> At 23:27 11/13/2008, Paul J. Piercey wrote:
> >Does sitting on a county line require separate QSOs for each mult in the
> QSO
> >party? I would imagine so seeing it would be hard for logging software to
> >issue 2 mults in 1 QSO so, if that's the case, then he would be KE0Z/W0 in
> >one QSO and KE0Z/VE4 in the other. However...
> >
> >There is probably some issue about crossing international borders as
> opposed
> >to county/state/provincial borders anyway. Besides, I would think your
> >Homeland Security dudes might have an issue with it. A bunch of porcupine
> >vehicles lined up on the border every weekend might get them a bit
> nervous.
> >;-)
> >
> >Thanks -- Paul
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com
> > > [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Eric Hilding
> > > Sent: November 13, 2008 06:41
> > > To: cq-contest at contesting.com
> > > Cc: 'Kutzko, Sean, KX9X'; wigravning at iw.net
> > > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] VE4 and ND in one QSO?
> > >
> > > Regarding KE0Z's Soapbox writeup for his /VE4 activity
> > > (below), it appears Emerson, Manitoba may be just above
> > > Minnesota from what I can tell on Google Earth.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > So, the $64,000 question is. if KE0Z (or anyone else) moved
> > > West a bit and put a vertical exactly centered right on the
> > > U.S. Canadian border line (Manitoba to the North and North
> > > Dakota to the South), would this yield two "rare mults" in
> > > one SS QSO?  My personal opinion is that this would really be
> > > no different than a 'County Line' type operation in State QSO Parties.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Would signing something like KE0Z/W0/VE4 or KE0Z/VE4/W0 be legal ???
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I will sleep better at night knowing the answer to this!!!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Tnx & 73.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Rick, K6VVA * The Locust
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > RE:
> > >
> > > KE0Z/VE4 -- Nov 5, 2008 19:10 ET
> > >
> > > I noticed the past couple years that a lot of ops were
> > > missing the sweep because of the troublesome Manitoba section
> > > so I began thinking about making a kind of mini-dxpedition
> > > there for this year's CW SS.
> > >
> > > In September, my work brought me up close to the Canadian
> > > border so I went across to look at possible sites for
> > > portable operations. Just across, and only 300 yards from the
> > > US/Canadian border was the Maple Leaf Motel in Emerson
> > > Manitoba. It is a mom and pop sort of motel with a small yard
> > > which looked like a good spot for a vertical.
> > >
> > > I told the owner what I had in mind and he was okay with it.
> > > On the afternoon of the contest I was setting up my station
> > > and before long slinging the dits and dahs into the ether. I
> > > prefer search and pounce but I tried to spend some extra time
> > > calling cq so it would be easier for everyone to work the
> > > section. It was fun to be on the other end of the pile-up for
> > > a change and I hope I helped some folks with the sweep.
> > >
> > > Incidently, Sunday was a beautiful day so I took about an
> > > hour break from the radio to go for a walk. The motel owner
> > > pointed out a marker placed on the border between US and
> > > Canada. It was curious to me that there wasn't even a fence
> > > there, just the marker and I could simply step from one
> > > country into the other.
> > >
> > > IC-706 and a Butternut vertical, ground mounted with 18
> > > radials. -- KE0Z
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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-- 
73,

Gerry Hull, W1VE/VE1RM
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