[CQ-Contest] Station not giving a check or section

[Felipe J Hernandez]

Thanks Rick.... Fair response.

Cu on WWCW!

Felipe
NP4Z


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Rick Tavan N6XI 
  To: cq-contest at contesting.com 
  Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 11:58 PM
  Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Station not giving a check or section


  The station in question often gave out partial exchanges. He didn't utter
  the phrase "Puerto Rico" on every QSO but he did say it while I was
  listening. He also gave out two years a couple times while I was in the
  pileup. When I worked him, I asked explicitly for the year he was first
  licensed and he replied "x or x+1; I don't remember." I logged one of those
  years since my logging program doesn't provide fuzzy data entry. Others may
  log the other. I doubt he will submit a log. I doubt the log checker DQs a
  QSO if the call is non-unique and others logged a different year. Who's to
  judge in such a case? Of course if he does submit a log claiming one of
  those years, those who logged the other year will lose. Fortunately for me,
  I worked another KP4.

  /Rick N6XI

  On 11/21/08, Felipe J Hernandez <fhdez at islandnetjm.com> wrote:
  >
  > Maybe someone else can confirm that indeed he wasnt giving the whole
  > exchange.
  > Im sure that opinions from people that really listened to him would be more
  > meaningful than mine.
  >
  > Felipe
  > NP4Z
  >
  >   ----- Original Message -----
  >   From: Professional Home Inspections
  >   To: 'Felipe J Hernandez' ; 'I H' ; cq-contest at contesting.com
  >   Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 9:44 AM
  >   Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Station not giving a check or section
  >
  >
  >   I am sure the log checking software does not take into account "good
  >   intentions"
  >   Other rare sections stations didn't need to work split when the piles
  > were
  >   so crazy in order to not be covered by the QRM of the callers and we all
  > had
  >   to listen for QRP's and VE's. Do you think he was the only station with
  >   pile-ups?
  >   He didn't send the required contest exchange correctly, the contacts
  > should
  >   not count. Period.
  >   If the ARRL lets this go, guess what will happen next time?
  >   The rules state - NO CHECK, NO SECTION = NO QSO.
  >   If we missed any part of the receiving stations exchange, we told the
  >   station, NO QSO, please try later. We did not log a partial QSO.
  >
  >   Paul K2DB @ K2NNY
  >
  >   -----Original Message-----
  >   From: Felipe J Hernandez [mailto:fhdez at islandnetjm.com]
  >   Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 10:08 AM
  >   To: I H; cq-contest at contesting.com
  >   Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Station not giving a check or section
  >
  >   THere where only 2 or 3 kp4's active.
  >   I was one of them, I suspect that maybe trying to save time he cut it
  > short,
  >   the piles were so crazy
  >   that we had to work split in order not to be covered by the QRM of the
  >   callers..
  >   It was difficult since I had to listen for QRP's and VE's to give the
  >   opportunity to as many guys in all classes.
  >
  >   If my testimonial helps in any way there was a logical explanation of
  > what
  >   you heard, Im sure that he gave the rest of the information maybe not all
  >   the time but Im sure that everyone that worked him got the whole thing
  >   otherwise the software wouldhave not logged the entry.
  >
  >   Perhaps the ARRL can understand the good intentions...
  >
  >
  >   Felipe
  >   NP4Z
  >
  >
  >
  >     ----- Original Message -----
  >     From: I H
  >     To: cq-contest at contesting.com
  >     Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 1:32 PM
  >     Subject: [CQ-Contest] Station not giving a check or section
  >
  >
  >
  >     During SS phone last weekend I heard a KP4 sending only his serial
  > number
  >   and precedent. He didn't give a check or section. Will it be counted as a
  >   valid qso? If it isn't, I wonder how many will miss the sweep because of
  > it.
  >
  >     There were a lot of guys needing the PR section when he showed up on
  > 20M
  >   late Sunday afternoon, so the pile up was pretty big. I chose not to try
  > and
  >   work the guy and took a chance on finding another one later in the
  > contest.
  >   I got lucky and worked PR with less than a half hour left Sunday evening
  > for
  >   the sweep.
  >
  >     So what do you guys think, should it be counted or not?
  >
  >     Ian - K8MM
  >
  >
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