[CQ-Contest] Self spotting rationale

w1md at cfl.rr.com w1md at cfl.rr.com
Wed Jul 29 17:36:57 PDT 2009

Well, except at it's inception back in the early 80's the "Packet Spotting Network" was just that...x.25 Amateur Radio Packet Spotting. We tend to forget the roots of things...of course I happened to be able to participate first hand in the some of the first Packet Spotting networks in New England. later it migrated to a mixed mode with internet taking up more and more of the network load.



---- Sandy Taylor <ve4xt at mts.net> wrote: 
> The no-spotting rule, IIRC, stemmed from the rule, that, since time began
> (in contesting, at least), says you cannot use non-amateur means to solicit
> QSOs.
> Using the Internet to place your own spots would be using non-amateur means
> to solicit QSOs.
> An operator has NO control over what others might do, and is not initiating
> the spot himself, so spotting by others is permitted.
> 73,kelly
> Ve4xt
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Robert Chudek - K0RC
> Sent: July-28-09 9:18 PM
> To: cq-contest at contesting.com
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Self spotting rationale
> This isn't a rhetorical question.
> How / why was the "no self spotting" rule created in the first place? Was it
> a knee-jerk reaction to the introduction of new technology at the time
> spotting networks began to flourish? What actual purpose does this rule
> serve? Whatever that purpose, is it outdated by technology?
> The use of the spotting networks automatically classifies a participant as
> "assisted" in the first place. To the non-assisted participants, why would
> they care whether stations were self-spotting or not? When I operate in the
> non-assisted category I don't care what is going on with the spotting
> network.
> To the participants in the "assisted" category, why not let them spot their
> brains out? Other than saturating the spotting network I don't see a
> down-side to this. If an assisted station spotted themselves once every X
> minutes, many things would "fall into place."
> First, there would be fewer busted calls being spotted. Second, assisted
> operators would know which bands were being used by the self spotter (are
> they operating 10 meters right now or not?). Third, self spotting timers
> could evolve in contest software to spot on a predetermined schedule.
> Fourth, David's spotting reports would not be necessary to see who was
> breaking the rules. Fifth, I wouldn't have to worry whether my call would
> appear on a report as "helping my team mates in our contest club" when I
> spot the members. (I have basically quit spotting anyone compared to the
> early days of the spotting network.)
> I can only imagine if Wal-Mart, Target, and K-Mart were not allowed to
> advertise their stores were open for business and what times you would find
> them open. I think the "no self spotting" rule is absurd.
> 73 de Bob - KØRC in MN
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