[CQ-Contest] License

[Art RX9TX]

 Brett, lets keep it simple: one can still file an application and get
 a temporary licence, or pass an exam and get a full licence.

 VR2BrettGraham wrote:

 
 V> RX9TX continued:

>> >>What  about  RA3CO  he still persists he was told he can use station's
>> >>owner  call  from  the  very  first operation, and I see no reason for
>> >>disbelief.
>> >
>> > Then RA3CO can produce something in writing from the Colombian
>> > authorities to support his claim.  So far he has not & the Colombian
>> > authorities instead have said he was not licensed.  QED, I think.
>>
>>Well,  If  I  come  to  the USA and operate someone's station with the
>>licence  owner  sitting  in  the  chair  next to me and supervising my
>>operation  I  still  do  not  need  "something in writing" to prove my
>>operation  was  legitimate.  It's the licence holder responsibilities,
>>not mine.

V> The scenario you talk about in USA is no different than with
V> any other unlicensed individual.  The unlicensed person
V> could never operate the station in the full sense & what you
V> could do is subject to third-party traffic restrictions (limits
V> what countries could be worked).  The supervision required
V> means there are, for the contest, two operators, so no
V> unlicensed person in USA will ever be able to submit a
V> single-op contest entry.

>> >>What  about  other  Russians,  the  answer  seems  obvious  - they get
>> >>temporary licences.
>> >
>> > How?  Your  country I doubt has many reciprocal agreements & none of
>> > your  citizens  can  use CEPT in any country to operate. That limits
>> > you to those places that look at an amateur licence from somewhere &
>> > satisfy  itself  as  all countries' licensing requirements stem from
>> > ITU-RR,   they  say  okay,  as  our  license  also  based  on  those
>> > requirements,  we  issue  one  of ours as you have one from home. VR
>> > does this. It looks like EA does this. There are undoubtedly others.
>>
>>I think those limits are wider than they seem, you don't need to be in
>>CEPT or have reciprocal agreements to operate from most of the Europe.
>>YOu  can  still  file your personal application and get your temporary
>>licence like in old days. At least thats what I was told by SM6LRR.

V> I used to be the president of our national society, over a
V> period where we lost all basis we ever had for licensing
V> other-than-sitting-our-exam for those coming to our shores &
V> all basis we had for being able to operate ourselves abroad
V> (not unlike situation for Russians it seems right now).  My
V> familiarity with this subject is rather good.

V> There are reciprocal agreements, CEPT & IARP.  CEPT has
V> added a type of document to facilitate this recognition concept,
V> called HAREC.  That's all, leaves only administrations creative
V> enough to get their heads around this recognition thing on their
V> own without something like HAREC.

>>What  about real DX places in Africa, Asia or Pacific or anywhere else
>>outside  of  CEPT  personal  application  for sure is the only way for
>>anyone.

V> In addition to operators operating from places where one
V> might wonder how they managed get licensed, there are
V> places where it might be expected that proof of legitimacy
V> be required of other entrant demographics.

>> > Wrong. Under CEPT & with a US licence _and_ US citizenship, then one
>> > can  operate  from  the bits of F that F has extended CEPT to, which
>> > according  to  what  F told ERO includes bits above that you say are
>> > not  covered.  Norway  allows CEPT in JW but not JX. Of that list, I
>> > believe  only  3Y & ZB are not possible with CEPT. Please, these are
>> > facts, get them straight OM.
>>
>>Need to check it again, not all the bits of F as far as I know.

V> Yes, do: http://www.erodocdb.dk/docs/doc98/official/pdf/TR6101.PDF

V> 73, ex-VR2BG/p.

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