[CQ-Contest] Ban all contest spotting?

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w1md at cfl.rr.com wrote:
> Hi Dennis...you better 'find' me this weekend...!!! :)
>
> BUT...if you are S&P'ing then you wouldn't get 'spotted' anyway...
>
> Of course there is more to flesh out before SELF SPOTTING becomes incorporated...but I think we're (thanks to Tree) onto something here... :)
>
> MD
>
> ---- Dennis McAlpine <dbmcalpine at earthlink.net> wrote: 
>   
>> But, what if one is an S&Per and changes frequency a lot?  Then an update
>> every 30 min is not enough.  If you are looking for that rare SC mult in SS
>> and you see me spotted 28 minutes ago, the chances are good that I am no
>> longer on that frequency.  This means that rare SC mult may continue to
>> elude you.
>>
>> I make it a practice that if I come across a station calling CQ and it is
>> not on my band map, I spot him so that everyone will know where that station
>> is.  That is a simple Alt-P on n1mm.
>>
>> The other option is to incorporate a built is skimmer into every radio and
>> then you don't need to worry about spots that you can't hear.  Three cheers
>> for skimmer!!!
>>
>> 73,
>> Dennis, K2SX
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: w1md at cfl.rr.com [mailto:w1md at cfl.rr.com] 
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 9:53 AM
>> To: k1ep.list at gmail.com; Glenn Wyant; CQ-Contest at contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Ban all contest spotting?
>>
>> So...maybe this is a "good" argument for allowing self-spotting. Say, allow
>> each contestant in the contest the option to post their call/freq. every
>> 30min's . (no more reports of the 'most spotted calls'...since everyone who
>> is ON the network should have roughly the same number of spots over the
>> weekend...96...no more cheerleaders or self spotters...WE'd ALL be self
>> spotters)
>>
>> The good:
>>
>> 1.  Ensures that the packet spot is correct...no busted calls
>> 2.  GREATLY reduces network traffic (It amazes me sometimes to watch the raw
>> data feeds and see the multiple simultaneous spots of a station that go
>> through).
>> 3.  Puts EVERYONE on the same playing field. 
>> 4.  With periodic spots, the packet pileups would fade away.
>> 5.  No more having to hit ALT-F3 or whatever your logging program requires.
>> 6.  Have the logging software implement the periodic updates automatically
>> and NOT allow any manual spots.
>>
>>
>> Seems like a 'win win'. :)
>>
>> Marty
>> W1MD
>> ---- Ed K1EP <k1ep.list at gmail.com> wrote: 
>>     
>>> At 11/2/2009 02:11 PM, Glenn Wyant wrote:
>>>
>>>       
>>>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Ban all contest spotting?
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> I propose that those who dont want clusters; that they dont use them.
>>>>>
>>>>> I propose that those who like using clusters ; use them.
>>>>>
>>>>> Assuming they claim the proper category , IF they submit a contest
>>>>>           
>> entry.
>>     
>>>>> I am one of those low-life ,  cripples that uses the cluster (
>>>>>           
>> assisted )
>>     
>>>>> now and then , sorry to those who wish control my operating
>>>>>           
>> preferences.
>>     
>>>>> Glenn VA3DX
>>>>>           
>>> For me, as a low power non-assisted contester, the use of packet in a 
>>> contest is not merely an argument of whether it is a crutch or not, 
>>> it affects the way I contest, even though I do not use it.  Packet in 
>>> a contest creates "packet pileups".  Once a sought after station is 
>>> spotted, a tremendous, sometimes unruly, pileup ensues.  As an 
>>> unassisted low power contester, I seek out the DX by tuning.  When I 
>>> find one, I would like the opportunity to work him without hundreds 
>>> of packet people descending upon him.  If, on the other hand, I am 
>>> running and spotted incorrectly, I will all of a sudden have a flood 
>>> of eager contesters calling me.  Many will have already worked me and 
>>> be dupes.  This causes me to either QSY or work many dupes and reduce 
>>> my effective rate.  So, the use of packet it not an isolated event, 
>>> it just doesn't help or assist the operator using it, it affects all 
>>> the other contesters.  Whether these effects are beneficial or not 
>>> should be the discussion.  If packet could be used by an assisted 
>>> operator without affecting others, then I am all for it.  In reality, 
>>> that isn't the case.
>>>
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