[CQ-Contest] skimmer spotting? club spotting?

[Pete Smith]

The Skimmer thing is a red herring - Skimmer prevents self-spotting 
unless you deliberately tell Skimmer that your call is something other 
than your own, which is a dead giveaway of nefarious intent.  In any 
case, Skimmer spots are not being pumped into the Internet spotting 
network, and I hope that never happens.

But the real bottom line is simple - technological considerations aside, 
self-spotting is against the rules.  Would you allow sailboat racers to 
use outboard motors, simply because they are available, or because 
someone forgot to be totally categorical in writing the rules for a 
particular regatta?

73, Pete N4ZR
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On 10/26/2009 7:14 PM, Tree wrote:
> WM5R writes:
>
>    
>> Aside from the legality of it, self-spotting is really bad form.  It's
>> calling CQ on the internet.  You should be calling CQ on the radio.  It's
>> a radio contest - not an internet contest.
>>      
>
> I guess something here still feels odd to me about this statement.
>
> Case 1: Someone hears you CQing - and they spot you - and people see the
> spot and come to your frequency and work you.
>
> Case 2: You spot yourself - people see the spot and come to your freqeuency
> and work you.
>
> In both cases - the internet is involved.  The information put out on the
> internet is the same.  The net result is the same.  The difference is how
> the information came to be posted to the internet.  You still call CQ on
> the radio - and someone tunes you in and works you.
>
> What about this?
>
> Case 3: A skimmer sees your CQ - spots you on packet - and people see the
> spot and come to your frequency to work you.
>
> What callsign should the skimmer use to make the post to the internet?
>
> What if my skimmer has a really bad antenna and seems to only hear my
> station?
>
> I still don't like the concept of self spotting, but I think it is getting
> harder and harder to *really* prevent it.   Some people work around it by
> making sure to spot their club members a lot.  If you have a bunch of
> people across town who are spotting you - the net result is the same as
> self spotting.
>
> Tree N6TR
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