[CQ-Contest] A new "DX cluster" experience for contesters

Sat Apr 17 07:26:53 PDT 2010

Right, so we all need to keep adding to our fun so we keep coming back for
more and attract new operators!  New technology adds to my fun, so I am more
likely to get out on the lake to try to do something more than before with
it.  If I had to keep using manual cw with paper logs and no spotting
network I would probably have given up years ago.

David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt at arrl.net
web: http://www.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net

-----Original Message-----
From: Dale Putnam [mailto:daleputnam at hotmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 14:10
To: k1ttt at arrl.net; cq-contest at contesting.com
Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] A new "DX cluster" experience for contesters

so, all the sailboats could declare it a calm day, and tie up. 
Let the powerboats have at it. After they all run enough gas 
and time, eventually they will get tired of running into each other, 
and they will look for new targets. But now the new targets are all tied up.
 So.. the power boats will eventually get tired of playing the same game..
over and over.
Maybe. And maybe it would also work for the sailboats to find thier very own
ocean. And play by them selves too. Eventually they will get tired of that
too... and because there is no new sailboats and no new powerboats.. the
lakes will go unused, until the homeowners on the shores decide that they
don't need any boats obstructing their view, so since there are so few boats
anyway, just make them all tie up. 
  Problem solved. 

--... ...-- Dale - WC7S in Wy

> From: K1TTT at ARRL.NET
> To: cq-contest at contesting.com
> Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 11:43:56 +0000
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] A new "DX cluster" experience for contesters
> 
> The problem is pete, that since in our contests all those different entry
> classes are running at the same time on the same lake people get confused
> and think they are a sailboat competing with a power boat... where the
power
> boat operators usually ignore the slow poke sailboats and just watch each
> other.
> 
> 
> David Robbins K1TTT
> e-mail: mailto:k1ttt at arrl.net
> web: http://www.k1ttt.net
> AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Pete Smith [mailto:n4zr at contesting.com]
> > Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 10:36
> > To: CQ Contest
> > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] A new "DX cluster" experience for contesters
> > 
> > In the 19th century, mechanical propulsion largely replaced sail as the
> > motive power for commercial and military ships. In the 20th century,
> > internal combustion engines and the invention of the outboard motor made
> > it possible to dispense with sails and oars on almost all vessels.
> > 
> > Yet sailboats and rowboats persist today, and are a source of great
> > pleasure for millions. Intense and popular competitions among both
> > types of vessel take place frequently and attract millions of
> > enthusiasts world-wide. At the highest level, sailboat competitions
> > such as the America's Cup involve use of extremely advanced technology
> > on the non-propulsive side of the bright line defining the sport.
> > Competitions among powerboats occur too, from small outboards to boats
> > powered by huge gas turbine engines.
> > 
> > I hope my point is obvious.
> > 
> > 73, Pete N4ZR
> > 
> > 
> > On 4/17/2010 4:00 AM, Christian Schneider wrote:
> > > VE5RA wrote:
> > >
> > >> So begins the 'age of the robots'.
> > >>
> > > But it will be only one more of those smaller and bigger steps in the
> > > development - applauded as keeping up with progress and maybe gaining
> > new
> > > blood. Will it be two or three years that the first M/M-stations "man"
> > their
> > > 160m-station during daylight and 10m during nighttimes with a
qso-robot?
> > Or
> > > is this already done? Given the ingenuity on the software side it may
> > take
> > > "only" some combining of decoding-technology with expanded
ESM-routines
> > of
> > > existing contest software. Initial stumbling may be irrelanvant with
the
> > > rates at that time and allow refinement to adjust it for coming
things.
> > > An(y) operator will be present in a(ny) room there.
> > > This becoming more widespread it will earn the ususal criticism by
> > > irrelevant small guns refuted with the argument they seemingly still
> > want to
> > > operate with a straight key. With becoming more widespread even some
> > bigguns
> > > may feel bored but won´t dare to utter it publicly in the presence of
> > > chestpounding colleagues.
> > > Acting may begin [IRONY ON] if more bigguns get fire from XYLs because
> > they
> > > unintentionally checked the ECAR-box ("effective contest analyzing
> > routine")
> > > in their software which starts at 0001 after the test and ordered the
> > OH8X`
> > > 3-ele 160m-beam (flawlessly interacting with the online-banking
> > software)
> > > because there were three unworked skimmer spots from Africa on that
> > band.
> > > [IRONY OFF].
> > >
> > > Disclaimer: This is NO condemning of the technology itself. It is kind
> > of
> > > sorrow that this blending taking place in smaller and bigger (i.e.
> > skimmer)
> > > steps changes the flavour of the hobby substantially. At some points
of
> > > blending wine with pepsi it detracts some from it but of course may
> > attract
> > > new consumers. Again: Like skimmer all this is tech-wise interesting
> > and,
> > > yes, also fascinating, but at the same time somewhat saddening. Like
it
> > or
> > > leave it, I know and will do. We´ll only have some rule debate, some
> > rule
> > > changes and may be some more retreats as far as "unassisted" is
> > concerned.
> > > Not much more to do.
> > >
> > > Of course you are free to denounce this as "whining" - if you also
think
> > > that a marathon-runner is techwise backwards only because he is
> > fascinated
> > > by the techwise less effective way to span 42,5 km.
> > >
> > > Best 73, Chris
> > >
> > > (www.dl8mbs.de)
> > >
> > >
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