[CQ-Contest] A new "DX cluster" experience for contesters

Sat Apr 17 08:44:13 PDT 2010

The qs1r I use for my skimmer does 6m also out of the box!

David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt at arrl.net
web: http://www.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Zack Widup [mailto:w9sz.zack at gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 15:17
> To: CQ Contest
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] A new "DX cluster" experience for contesters
> 
> Yeah, but the thing is, in the case of the slow poke sailboats, they do
> nothing to contribute to the possibility of winning by the power boat. Ham
> radio contests are one of the few (maybe the only) activities where one's
> score improves as he also improves others' scores. It's just a matter of
> who
> can improve the most other people's scores the fastest.
> 
> I just saw that the CQWW contests of last year had 12,000 entries. No
> doubt
> a goodly amount of these were by the slow poke sailboats. What if all of
> these gave up and quit contesting? I am one of those slow-poke sailboats
> and
> I have a feeling I might end up quitting if the fun gets taken out of it
> for
> me.  What would a major contest be like with 200 entrants?
> 
> Maybe I'll just stick with VHF/UHF/microwave contesting. I don't see any
> of
> these changes in technology being discussed affecting those in the
> foreseeable future.
> 
> 73, Zack W9SZ
> 
> On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 5:43 AM, K1TTT <K1TTT at arrl.net> wrote:
> 
> > The problem is pete, that since in our contests all those different
> entry
> > classes are running at the same time on the same lake people get
> confused
> > and think they are a sailboat competing with a power boat... where the
> > power
> > boat operators usually ignore the slow poke sailboats and just watch
> each
> > other.
> >
> >
> > David Robbins K1TTT
> > e-mail: mailto:k1ttt at arrl.net
> > web: http://www.k1ttt.net
> > AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Pete Smith [mailto:n4zr at contesting.com]
> > > Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 10:36
> > > To: CQ Contest
> >  > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] A new "DX cluster" experience for
> contesters
> > >
> > > In the 19th century, mechanical propulsion largely replaced sail as
> the
> > > motive power for commercial and military ships.  In the 20th century,
> > > internal combustion engines and the invention of the outboard motor
> made
> > > it possible to dispense with sails and oars on almost all vessels.
> > >
> > > Yet sailboats and rowboats persist today, and are a source of great
> > > pleasure for millions.  Intense and popular competitions among both
> > > types of vessel take place frequently and attract millions of
> > > enthusiasts world-wide.  At the highest level, sailboat competitions
> > > such as the America's Cup involve use of extremely advanced technology
> > > on the non-propulsive side of the bright line defining the sport.
> > > Competitions among powerboats occur too, from small outboards to boats
> > > powered by huge gas turbine engines.
> > >
> > > I hope my point is obvious.
> > >
> > > 73, Pete N4ZR
> > >
> > >
> > > On 4/17/2010 4:00 AM, Christian Schneider wrote:
> > > > VE5RA wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> So begins the 'age of the robots'.
> > > >>
> > > > But it will be only one more of those smaller and bigger steps in
> the
> > > > development - applauded as keeping up with progress and maybe
> gaining
> > > new
> > > > blood. Will it be two or three years that the first M/M-stations
> "man"
> > > their
> > > > 160m-station during daylight and 10m during nighttimes with a
> > qso-robot?
> > > Or
> > > > is this already done? Given the ingenuity on the software side it
> may
> > > take
> > > > "only" some combining of decoding-technology with expanded ESM-
> routines
> > > of
> > > > existing contest software. Initial stumbling may be irrelanvant with
> > the
> > > > rates at that time and allow refinement to adjust it for coming
> things.
> > > > An(y) operator will be present in a(ny) room there.
> > > > This becoming more widespread it will earn the ususal criticism by
> > > > irrelevant small guns refuted with the argument they seemingly still
> > > want to
> > > > operate with a straight key. With becoming more widespread even some
> > > bigguns
> > > > may feel bored but won´t dare to utter it publicly in the presence
> of
> > > > chestpounding colleagues.
> > > > Acting may begin [IRONY ON] if more bigguns get fire from XYLs
> because
> > > they
> > > > unintentionally checked the ECAR-box ("effective contest analyzing
> > > routine")
> > > > in their software which starts at 0001 after the test and ordered
> the
> > > OH8X`
> > > > 3-ele 160m-beam (flawlessly interacting with the online-banking
> > > software)
> > > > because there were three unworked skimmer spots from Africa on that
> > > band.
> > > > [IRONY OFF].
> > > >
> > > > Disclaimer: This is NO condemning of the technology itself. It is
> kind
> > > of
> > > > sorrow that this blending taking place in smaller and bigger (i.e.
> > > skimmer)
> > > > steps changes the flavour of the hobby substantially. At some points
> of
> > > > blending wine with pepsi it detracts some from it but of course may
> > > attract
> > > > new consumers. Again: Like skimmer all this is tech-wise interesting
> > > and,
> > > > yes, also fascinating, but at the same time somewhat saddening. Like
> it
> > > or
> > > > leave it, I know and will do. We´ll only have some rule debate, some
> > > rule
> > > > changes and may be some more retreats as far as "unassisted" is
> > > concerned.
> > > > Not much more to do.
> > > >
> > > > Of course you are free to denounce this as "whining" - if you also
> > think
> > > > that a marathon-runner is techwise backwards only because he is
> > > fascinated
> > > > by the techwise less effective way to span 42,5 km.
> > > >
> > > > Best 73, Chris
> > > >
> > > > (www.dl8mbs.de)
> > > >
> > > >
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