[CQ-Contest] Wasting Time

[Kelly Taylor]

There's another element to contesting where wasting time makes no sense.

Even contests that are 48 hours are composed of different periods of
propagation: you do NOT have 48 hours to work every JA, for example.
Depending on where you are located and where the opening leads, you may have
a small window of opportunity, where you should try to work every station
that is trying to call you.

It's particularly salient from here to JA, where you may have brief openings
Friday and Saturday but you can forget Sunday since the openings from here
to JA hit in JA at the start of the Monday workday...

Good operating is good operating.
73, kelly
ve4xt


On 12/4/10 7:14 AM, "Bob Naumann" <W5OV at W5OV.COM> wrote:

> George is, of course, 100% correct.
> 
> I also can agree with Al - but only from a purely philosophical perspective;
> that being - little of this matters in the grand scheme of life.
> 
> However, we are talking about contest operating. And, these corrections and
> advisories to not waste time by sending superfluous and meaningless stuff is
> intended to help others understand how to contest properly.
> 
> Al's argument is akin to saying that "as long as you hit the golf ball, it
> really doesn't matter where it goes since you can always hit it again".
> Well, yes - but that also misses the point - doesn't it?
> 
> There's a right way and a wrong way to do things, and saying something inane
> like "Please copy my number..." at the beginning of an exchange is just
> plain poor operating technique - and, yes - a waste of time.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Bob W5OV
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of George Fremin III
> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 3:15 PM
> To: al_lorona at agilent.com
> Cc: cq-contest at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Wasting Time
> 
> On Fri, Dec 03, 2010 at 11:56:53AM -0700, al_lorona at agilent.com wrote:
> 
>> Most of these statements are highly ironic. To see why, tune in to
>> the last few hours of any contest, when stations can go several
>> minutes on a frequency calling CQ without an answer but keep pushing
>> the button anyway. I'm in no way begruding their right to call CQ;
>> I'm saying that if you add up all of the precious seconds "wasted"
>> by those of us that say "please" or "QSL" or whatever, that "wasted"
>> time doesn't even come close to the time you spend sitting on a
>> quiet frequency looking for those last few contacts.
> 
>> In other words, most stations are not time-limited in most contests,
>> they are 'finding-another-Q' limited.
> 
> While in general I want to agree with you - I also know that every
> chance I have to make more contacts faster at the start of the contest
> or whenever for that matter is more time I have to work another
> station at some other point in the contest.
> 
> Contests have a finite amount of time in them - when the contest is
> over is is over.  You can never get any of that time back - every
> second that ticks by is a second that you can never make up.
> 
> At any point in the contest when you have stations waiting to work you
> if you take to long to make a contact they will likely tune to the
> next station - this is a lost contact and there is no way to say that
> you will make that contact later. Indeed you don't know if the band
> will be open to that station at another point in the contest etc.
> 
> The contest for me where I think about this a lot - maybe way too much
> - is the phone sweepstakes.  In the phone SS rates above 150 an hour
> are very hard to maintain. 150 an hour is an average of 2.5 contacts
> per minute for an hour.
> 
> If you can manage 3 contacts per minute you will have a 180 hour. This
> means a full exchange of information every 20 seconds.  In phone SS
> this is really hard to do - and it does not take many slow exchanges
> to turn your 180 hour into a 150 hour. So in order to have a 180 hour
> you need to have many minutes when the rate is more than 3 contacts an
> minute. And every time an extra thing is said or an extra fill is
> needed on either side you can really feel the time slipping away.  It
> might seem like a small thing but if it takes 10 seconds longer to
> make a contact every minute your 180 hour becomes a 120 hour.
> 
> It is for this reason that a station really trying to make a big score
> is so worried about wasted time.
> 
> I (no surprise) think this is a valid thing.  No matter how many
> unanswered CQs there might be later in the contest.  Or how many there
> might be during the 180 hour.
> 
> Here is a recording of a 179 contact hour in phone SS:
> 
> http://www.k5tr.net/audio/contests/SS/SSB/2004/2004_K5TR_ss_ssb_2004-11-21_0
> 0:00.mp3
> 
> Maybe there are some slow minutes in there and you can get a feel for
> how long they seem.