[CQ-Contest] [FCG] a little more fairness?

Wed Dec 8 17:48:37 PST 2010

Horse hockey! If you don't like the rules, (or the results) no one forces 
you to play in the game.

Sounds too much like the "me too" generation - i.e., everyone gets to play, 
everybody gets ice cream after the game
and no one is made to feel like a loser.

Since there can obviously only be 10 in the TOP TEN, most everyone is 
"playing" for their personal enjoyment,
attempting to beat previous "personal bests" etc. Personally speaking, there 
was great personal joy at basically doubling
my results in the FQP from one year to the next. One could only wish that 
the math would support the same kind of
improvement from year to year!

If there are hundreds, or thousands participating, it doesn't make sense 
(either economically or philosophically!)
to focus on much of anything except the top anything.

Art - N4PJ

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Charles Harpole" <k4vud at hotmail.com>
To: <sm6lrr at gmail.com>; "Florida ContestGroup" <fcg at kkn.net>; "Contest 
Internet" <cq-contest at contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 11:08 AM
Subject: Re: [FCG] [CQ-Contest] a little more fairness?

>
> Ok, and good arguement Mats....  BUT, if an overall win is not important, 
> then why is that what is the big news in the magazines and score reports? 
> IF contests are all about personal best scores, about local wins, and 
> about who in what country scored highest, then why is there total stress 
> on THE TOP TEN OR TOP TWENTY?
>
> When the magazines and sites start to forground and highlight personal 
> best scores, local wins, and who in what geographical area scored high, 
> THEN I will agree with your statements.  American contests are for 
> Americans, of course, but the sponsors of contests can infuse more 
> satisfaction for ALL participants by getting off the idea of TOP SCORERS 
> overall.
>
> de HS0ZCW
>
> Charles Harpole k4vud at hotmail.com
>
>
>
>
>
> Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 09:56:56 +0300
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] a little more fairness?
> From: sm6lrr at gmail.com
> To: vk4ti at yahoo.com
> CC: cq-contest at contesting.com; k4vud at hotmail.com
>
>
> If we start to change points for different zones, this will create a huge 
> mess. See CQWW as a contest where you first of all challenge your own 
> previous results by building better antennas, increasing your own 
> operating skills, learning to adapt to different conditions on different 
> bands, search more efficiently for multipliers etc etc. When you think you 
> have improved your own skills enough, start comparing with your neighbours 
> in the same city, country, zone, continent... If you really want to win 
> the CQWW contest, you need to also analyze which geographical location is 
> the ideal. The globe is as it is...  I know for sure, regardless of 
> antennas and skills, to win SOAB from Sweden or from Moscow will be 
> impossible. BUT, there are always national records in different categories 
> to aim for.
>
> Enjoy contesting, develop your station and your skills - and most of all, 
> realize that we will never be able to achieve WRTC 2010 equal conditions 
> for all contesters in CQWW ;) Have fun! Contesting is exciting, but not 
> the most deadly serious in life...
>
> 73 de R3/SM6LRR, Mats
>
>
>
> 2010/12/7 <vk4ti at yahoo.com>
>
> Charles for years the contesting community down under has said we cant 
> compete with the Hawaiians for Oceania -
> Recently from the antipodes the ZL8X team did just that - competed and 
> broke the Oceania MM record - why ? They had very good ops, a good 
> location and even better antenna.
> There are only a handful of good stations in Oceania - I am one of the 
> guys that put together the VK4KW team and we have done heaps of work to 
> get results and are on constant improvement - there has been two years 
> steady improvement and at least another two years before we hit our 
> straps..
> The scores from 9M6AAC over the years say to me that your neck of the 
> woods is fine - you just need to make a station that works - just like 
> everyone else does..
> Start with beverages on 160 70 and 40 and work from there - I am sure you 
> will be happy with the results
>
>
> --- On Mon, 6/12/10, Charles Harpole <k4vud at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: Charles Harpole <k4vud at hotmail.com>
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] a little more fairness?
> To: "Contest Internet" <cq-contest at contesting.com>
> Received: Monday, 6 December, 2010, 10:34 PM
>
>
> A modest proposal....  Could the contesting community consider cutting 
> some slack to a neglected part of the contesting world, specifically CQ 
> Zones 22, 26, 27 and 28, South Asia area.  I suggest doubling the point 
> count for working stations in this area from outside the zones.
>
> The reason is that (1) most beams are from NA to EU or the reverse or are 
> on JA (these headings are a long way from S. Asia usually), (2) many very 
> high power stations clustered in EU tend to drown out S. Asia to all in 
> EU, (3) the start time of 0000Z gives very poor first hours to S. Asia 
> stations due to prop at those hours, and (5) there are just not as many 
> one-hop stations to work within these and near-by zones and (5) not many 
> stations in S. Asia do contests partly due to what is listed here.
>
> The playing field is just not flat, not nearly, and looks more like a 
> mountain between S. Asia and the large collections of contesters in EU and 
> NA.  So, I ask this be considered because it will also liven up contests 
> and add more challenges.  I will certainly encourage S. Asia stations to 
> participate more and longer.
>
> 73, Thanks, HS0ZCW
>
> Charles Harpole
>
> k4vud at hotmail.com
>
>
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