[CQ-Contest] Topband: Stew Perry contest this weekend

[K1TTT]

This gets to one of my big beefs with the cqww cw announcement also.  

The 'Reverse Beacon Network' is like a trademark for a specific service, it
is NOT a generic description of a way to collect multiple skimmers into a
single spotting system.  There are several ways to do that, including the
VE7CC node and others that have been set up for specific groups.

The other big problem is PRIVATE vs PUBLIC, there is no accepted description
of that which can be used to define what can or can't be used.  From the way
I read the SP rule any multi op within 100km of my PUBLIC skimmer can use it
(NOTE: this weekend it has the callsign N2KW).  But of course you have to
use the internet to connect to it.


David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt at arrl.net
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Guy Olinger K2AV [mailto:olinger at bellsouth.net]
> Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 17:10
> To: Tree
> Cc: topband at contesting.com; Jim Brown; cq-contest at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Topband: Stew Perry contest this weekend
> 
> I don't think you've quite addressed the confusion.
> 
> Should the first paragraph in 6. read:
> 
> Prohibited activities:  For single op in any category, use of
> internet-based and/or radio-based spotting systems and chat rooms is
> not permitted for the purposes of improving your score.
> 
> Or should it read:
> 
> Prohibited activities: Use of Internet-based and/or radio-based spotting
> systems and chat rooms is not permitted for the purposes of improving
> your score, regardless of category.  See limited exceptions below for
> multi-op.
> 
> ......
> 
> Use of PRIVATE skimmer like devices are permitted for the multi-operator
> category only.  Any skimmer like devices (including PRIVATE reverse
> beacon network devices) must be located within 100 km of other
> devices (such as transmitters). Use of skimmer and remote beacon
> networks generally available over the internet is prohibited for all
> classes.
> 
> Inquiring minds want to know.
> 
> 73, Guy.
> 
> 
> On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 10:02 PM, Tree <tree at kkn.net> wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 12:59:19PM -0800, Jim Brown wrote:
> >> On 12/15/2010 9:17 AM, Tree wrote:
> >> > 6.   Prohibited activities: Use of Internet-based and/or radio-based
> spotting
> >> > >      systems and chat rooms is not permitted for the purposes of
> improving
> >> > >      your score, regardless of category.
> >> > >
> >> > >      Remote operation is permitted as long as all transmitting and
> receiving
> >> > >      antennas used are within 100 km of each other - with only one
> transmitter
> >> > >      site.  The grid square sent and used for scoring purposes must
> be the one
> >> > >      that your transmitter is in.
> >> > >
> >> > >      Use of skimmer like devices are permitted for the multi-
> operator category
> >> > >      only.  Any skimmer like devices (including reverse beacon
> network devices)
> >> > >      must be located within 100 km of other devices (such as
> transmitters).
> >> > >
> >>
> >> The first and third paragraphs are in direct conflict.  The third
> >> paragraph would appear to limit the use of a skimmer device to a
> >> NON-INTERNET-BASED connection (i.e., radio). Further, the reverse
> beacon
> >> network IS INTERNET BASED, and it IS a spotting system, so IT would
> also
> >> appear to be prohibited for all categories by the first paragraph.
> >
> > Always fun writing new rules trying to keep up with technology!!
> >
> > Single-Op - a boy and his radio.
> >
> > Multi-Op - boys and their toys (as long as they are < 100 km)
> >
> > Tree
> > _______________________________________________
> > UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
> >
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