[CQ-Contest] NAQP CW + Skimmer

Joe nss at mwt.net
Thu Dec 23 12:21:06 PST 2010


Simple,  the receiver that is hearing the signal must be at the 
station.  if it is listening via an antenna that is at the station  then 
it's not legal.

Joe WB9SBD

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On 12/23/2010 12:36 PM, Aldewey at aol.com wrote:
> The intent of the current rule is that multi-channel band decoders , such
> as CW Skimmer, are allowed as long as they do NOT connect to any external
> source.  For example, you are not allowed to connect to a TELNET address  the
> publishes spots from Remote Skimmers.
>
> However, if the multi-channel band decoder is totally contained within the
> station, it is allowed.
>
> If someone can suggest a way to state that more simply, in one to two
> sentences without a lot of legalize, please respond off the reflector.
>
> 73,
>
> Al, K0AD
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 12/23/2010 11:58:19 A.M. Central Standard Time,
> K1TTT at ARRL.NET writes:
>
>>   Although NCJ does not have an official "Contest Committee", issues
> related
>> to the NCJ contests are discussed among all the NCJ contest  managers.
>> Often, input is solicited from others also. Final decisions  rest with the
>> Contest Manager for each of the 6 contests we  sponsor.  For the Sprints,
>> it  was
>> obvious that the  allowing the use of multi-channel band decoders made no
>> sense because  of the QSY rule.  It really came down to being an issue for
>> the  CW NAQP.  We decided to allow it in the Single Operator Class as
> long
>> as
>> there was no connection via the internet or any other  outside source.
> In
>> 2009, the NAQP rule was changed to  state:
> So you DO intend to allow wide band decoding and generating of  spotting
> information by CW Skimmer and Skimmer Server??
>
> "Access to spotting information obtained directly or indirectly from  any
> source other than the station operator, such as from other stations  or
> automated tools, is prohibited,"
>
> since CW Skimmer in its wideband  decoding mode automatically generates
> 'spotting information' I would  consider this first statement to exclude
> that
> use of the CW Skimmer or  Skimmer Server software.
>
> "except as follows: Technological methods of  copying information in the
> contest exchange (e.g. CW Skimmer, code readers,  etc.) are permitted as
> long
> as all components are entirely contained within  the station."
>
> Since this qualifies use of technology as being for  'copying information in
> the contest exchange' I consider this, in the CW  Skimmer usage, to be the
> narrow band audio only decoding of a single qso at  a time.  This is
> reinforced by lumping it in with 'code readers' which  in general do not
> generate spotting information and only allow copying a  single audio stream
> at a time.
>
> Perhaps the lack of complaint was  because participants took the more
> conservative reading and assumed that NO  sources of spotting information
> were allowed, which included the wide band  decoding and spotting modes of
> the CW Skimmer.
>
> David Robbins  K1TTT
> e-mail: mailto:k1ttt at arrl.net
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> AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or  telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
>
>
>
>
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